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Really need some HELP with BRAKES!!

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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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it happens. take it back and say its faulty get them to give you another then retry it. on big trucks i find sometimes tapping on the calipers gets trapped air out. id do that and replace all the rubber brake lines. that will insure they are new which is never a bad thing. id check the wheel cylinders again and make sure they arent leaking as well. if that doesnt work well looks like its time to replace calipers and or lines. its leaking somewhere if the other stuff doesnt work.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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so do you think its a bad mc? I mean, with the rear tires in the air and running in 2nd gear at idle, stepping on the brake should have put some strain on the motor. It didnt though. We have not been losing any fluid.

What size of plugs are needed to test the mc? What else could it be. We bypassed the abs and everything looks nice and tight.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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Are you sure you aren't low on fluid, and didn't run low while bleeding? Were you careful to not push too hard while bleeding (2 x 4 under the pedal...)?
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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never ran low while bleeding. without the engine running, the pedal is nice and firm. as soon as we start it, it is soft and goes to the floor.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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think it could be the booster?

should we try the mc from a 450 as a last resort?
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Is the boster hydraulic or vacuum on that year?
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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vacuum and it check out found. based on info I saw on another post, I think we have found the problem. Napa gave us the p/n 47-39634 mc, which according to their website has a 1-1/16 bore. We are going to swap it out for the p/n 47-39635 mc with the 1-1/8 bore. Hopefully, that's the problem.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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vacuum and it check out found. based on info I saw on another post, I think we have found the problem. Napa gave us the p/n 47-39634 mc, which according to their website has a 1-1/16 bore. We are going to swap it out for the p/n 47-39635 mc with the 1-1/8 bore. Hopefully, that's the problem.
That would be all I could suggest. It sounds like the hydraulic portion of the system is working properly since you found no leaks. It really sounds like an internal hyro leak to me.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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Many times when the master cylinder has filings in it, they cut up the internal seals in the master cylinder.
Fluid will bypass the piston seals, but you will never lose a drop of fluid.
Pedal goes to the floor.
You have brakes till the pedal reaches the end of the stroke.

I have had three or four that I have changed that the new master cylinder was worse than the old one.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 10:49 PM
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I researched this, and found (according to chilton and the repair manuals found in my sig) that the truck mc is supposed to be 1-1/8. This is why I cannot believe that napa, oh-rye-lees, and several other places put out these with the 1-1/16 bore. There is no way they can work right.

We are installing it in the morning and I will post back and let you all know what happens.
 
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