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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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No high beams

I apologize in advance if this has been covered and my feeble search skills have failed me. I have messed with this long enough and now seek the expertise available on this forum.

Truck: 1997 F150 4x4 XLT 4.6L
Problem: My high beams are not working. Low beams and foglights are working correctly.
Steps Taken: (not neccessarily in this order)
  • checked lamps = ok
  • replaced multifunction switch (also to fix the infamous wiper problems)
  • checked voltage to fuse 16 = 13 volts ok
  • checked fuse = missing?
    • fuse 16 was missing. I attempted to put in a new 20A fuse but it will not stay in the panel. Closer inspection reveals that while I can see pin 1, pin2 is no where in sight. I looks like this spot was never in use. Pin 1 is off to the right side instead of the space instead of in the bottom like all the other fuse spots.
My Ford service manual and my owners guide say that 16 is the correct fuse spot, but it looks like it was not meant to be used. I am at a loss on what to do next. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thanks.


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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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to begin with there is no fuse in the head lite circuit
only parking, turn, brake, ect.
if you have low beams then the head lite switch is working
next in line is the dimmer switch aka multi function switch
check for the hot from the headlite switch then thru the
dimmer switch part and out to either the high or low beams
check your plug connection and verify it is fully seated
 
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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The later trucks did have fuses in the headlight circuit. Usually two, one each lowbeam and one that feeds both highbeams. I don't have my diagrams with me to verify this on the 97 yet.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mhg
to begin with there is no fuse in the head lite circuit
only parking, turn, brake, ect.
if you have low beams then the head lite switch is working
next in line is the dimmer switch aka multi function switch
check for the hot from the headlite switch then thru the
dimmer switch part and out to either the high or low beams
check your plug connection and verify it is fully seated
Thanks for the reply. There is a fuse in the engin bay, 30A, that covers both low and high beams. It checks out ok with my multimeter. The owners manual and the service manual say that #16 in the cab fuse box controls the high beams. That is the one that is missing.

I just replaced the multifunction switch today and I know the connections are good. Wipers, turn signals, hazards and the washer pump all work correctly. The high beams did not work with the oem switch either.

A little more description of what happens is maybe in order. If I have the low beams on and turn on the high beams, I have no headlights at all until I shut off the highs. If I run the low beams and foglights, they both shut off when the high beam switch is engaged.

I will put my meter on the high beam connector and the lamp switch in the dash and report back. However, I am very suspicious of that empty spot on my fuse panel.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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They only had one fuse for the Headlights.

Click here for a wiring diagram of the 1997 F-series headlights.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by subford
They only had one fuse for the Headlights.

Click here for a wiring diagram of the 1997 F-series headlights.
No, that diagram is incorrect (looks like something out of a Haynes...).

The high beam output of the MFS DOES go to CJB Fuse F16, then to the high beams and the in-cluster indicator.

I suspect that if the OP drops the fusebox and looks at the rear, he'll find that one pin of the F16 socket has been pushed out the back.

Steve

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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
No, that diagram is incorrect (looks like something out of a Haynes...).

The high beam output of the MFS DOES go to CJB Fuse F16, then to the high beams and the in-cluster indicator.

I suspect that if the OP drops the fusebox and looks at the rear, he'll find that one pin of the F16 socket has been pushed out the back.

Steve

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Sorry about that, that diagram was for a 1997 Ford Aeromax.
It was from a Ford Manual, I would not and do not own a Haynes manual.

The Image has been corrected and here is a new link also.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Sorry about that, that diagram was for a 1997 Ford Aeromax.
It was from a Ford Manual, I would not and do not own a Haynes manual.

The Image has been corrected and here is a new link also.
Sorry, Boss. Still the wrong or incorrect diagram....

See page 85-1 of the 1997 F150 EVTM. If you need one, I can email you a PDF file.

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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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Sorry, Boss. Still the wrong or incorrect diagram....

See page 85-1 of the 1997 F150 EVTM. If you need one, I can email you a PDF file.

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That is page 85-1 of the 1997 F150 EVTM.

You need to click on reload on your computer while the image is up.
 

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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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Okay. Was pulling it from the local cache. Good catch.

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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Thanks for the assistance. That new picture make more sense.
Is it difficult to remove the fuse box? I cant seem to find the instructions in my service manual.
 
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