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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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Definetly let me know when they hit the production line Dave cause I would like to have one on this truck. Does it come with your Torque controller or whatever its called?

Cowboy Steve
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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[QUOTE=PowerStrokeHD]Take a look at this PDF file. Note that BP/Amoco is using a slighty different variation of the sticker.

http://www.dieselforum.org/meet-clean-diesel/newlabels/

Here is another PDF showing the LSD, ULSD and Non-Highway stickers that are currently in use.

http://www.clean-diesel.org/images/diesel_pump_labels.pdf[/QUOTE]

Weirdest labeling I have seen so far is both an LSD and ULSD label on the same pump. I am assuming that the tank was "upgraded" to the ULSD and someone forgot to remove the old LSD label from the pump. Regardless, I didn't buy fuel there, just motored to the next station. Ford has done Clean Fuel Tests on my truck when I take it in for service, so not messing around with it.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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They just built a new station about a mile down the road from me. I was happy to see that he had a diesel pump but had been avoiding fueling there because he was a dime higher /gallon then anyone else. I finally pulled in the other day and couldn't believe that the sticker on a brand new pump read LSD 500ppm. I didn't know that they were still making that stuff.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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[QUOTE=PowerStrokeHD]Take a look at this PDF file. Note that BP/Amoco is using a slighty different variation of the sticker.

http://www.dieselforum.org/meet-clean-diesel/newlabels/

Here is another PDF showing the LSD, ULSD and Non-Highway stickers that are currently in use.

http://www.clean-diesel.org/images/diesel_pump_labels.pdf[/QUOTE]

Wow, looking at the PDF, it seems that a lot of the diesel pumps I've been to in San Diego are in viloation of not having any sticker.

Pumps must be labeled by June 1, 2006.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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http://fleetowner.com/news/california_ulsd_tranistion_retail_090506/
muddy4x4 heres the link I hope it works.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by theblueox
I looked for the ulsd (the sticker) at all the stations in my area. Not a single station had it , but many have been certified this year. I looked online and found out all diesel in California is ulsd. Therefore the pumps do not need the sticker.
This is my first diesel and I love it.
I don't think this is true, some of the stations with slower selling diesel may still have LSD in their holding tanks (not illegal since only refiners have to be making ULSD). I think it takes three or four cycles to flush out the old diesel before the station can certify that ULSD is coming out of their pumps.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Check out this article

http://www.dieselpub.com/dp/prod_detail.asp?pick=616

Based on what it says, y'all shouldn't be having a problem finding ULSD. (I know that's a lie.)
 
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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"Although almost all pumps contain ULSD, preliminary data indicates that some retail stations have not properly labeled their diesel pumps as such."

 
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by origcharger
"Although almost all pumps contain ULSD, preliminary data indicates that some retail stations have not properly labeled their diesel pumps as such."
To the buying public, it looks like they failed to meet the mandate.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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Info for California owners... and others too...

What are diesel dispenser pump labeling requirements?

The EPA regulations require that the sulfur content of all diesel dispensers in the United States, except California, be communicated to the diesel end-users, using new dispenser labels. This includes the S15 (ULSD), S500 (LSD), and S5000 (HSD) dispensers. The EPA has defined the text for each label and provides specifications as to where the label is to be located on the dispenser. This regulation applies to any dispenser; whether it is at a retail site, commercial site, or is for company's own use.

As of June 1, 2006 each diesel dispenser (except those dispensers in California) must have a label that correctly identifies the type of diesel fuel being sold from that dispenser. Initially, for most on-highway diesel dispensers this will be the S500 (LSD) label. When a dispenser is transitioned to the new ultra low sulfur diesel fuel, the S500 (LSD) or S5000 (HSD) label must then be removed from the dispenser and replaced by an S15 (ULSD) label.

In California, the state has mandated that ULSD be the only fuel available. Therefore, the EPA has exempted California from labeling dispenser pumps.
 
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