GVW/Heavy load
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GVW/Heavy load
I did a quick search but am not really clear on my question so thats the reason for the post.
I need to get a 9-10,000 pound truck towed from PA to MD before Sunday and am running out of time. I regularly haul a 6200lb antique truck on a 20' 14,000 gooseneck trailer with my 94 F350 with 4:10 gears(not a dually). It handles the load very well and most of the time can stay at speed. Am I asking for trouble with this much weight? Thanks Bill
I need to get a 9-10,000 pound truck towed from PA to MD before Sunday and am running out of time. I regularly haul a 6200lb antique truck on a 20' 14,000 gooseneck trailer with my 94 F350 with 4:10 gears(not a dually). It handles the load very well and most of the time can stay at speed. Am I asking for trouble with this much weight? Thanks Bill
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The only thing that would concern me is that it's not a dually. Your trailer sounds like it is more than up to the task. As long as your trailer brakes are working correctly I would say you'll be fine.
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Yep, not being a dually was a concern of mine too. I think I may put tires on it before I go. They have a fwe miles on them and a due to be changed. It would defineately be the heaviest load my old truck has ever towed.
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Your truck isn't old. I drive an 87 F350 with 3.55s that hauled my suburban from Pasadena MD to Newport News VA then from Newport News to Youngstown OH. It took on the hills from Winchester WV to Breezewood PA. I was kinda slow but it did the trip. The kicker was both vehicles were loaded down with tools. I was probably dragging at least 11,000 pounds total behind me with another 3000 in the bed. I think you'll be safe
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Just don't pu**** to hard and you will be fine. Foot to the floor at low RPM for prolonged periods (commonly reffered to as a high speed lugging condition) will cause you problems. Better to drop a gear or two, slow down and keep the rpm's up in the normal operating range.
Easiest way to tell if you are high speed lugging is that you should have throttle control, IE if you let up on the throttle the engine should immediatly start to slow down. You should not be able to let up on the throttle a whole bunch before affecting engine RPM. If this is the case, then you will overfuel for the rpm being run at and your EGT's will get out of control fast.
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Easiest way to tell if you are high speed lugging is that you should have throttle control, IE if you let up on the throttle the engine should immediatly start to slow down. You should not be able to let up on the throttle a whole bunch before affecting engine RPM. If this is the case, then you will overfuel for the rpm being run at and your EGT's will get out of control fast.
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Since when is the word P U S H restricted? Along with IT, as in don't P U S H I T too hard?
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i've done 12k with a srw 86 4x4 6.9 with a c-6 going from ohio to north carolina it didn't like interstate 77 through virginia but it did ok was just slow climbing the 5-7% grades.Just remember to keep an eye on your water temp if you don't have a pyrometer.Make sure your trailer brakes and your rear brakes on the truck are adjusted right and you'll be ok if you use your head.
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From: Nutter Fort, WV
The reason I asked about the weight, both Pennsylvania and Maryland are not to freindly with heavy trucks.
Empty rig close to 13,000 pounds plus a 10,000 pound truck on that....23,000 gross.
Maryland and Pennsylvania DOT may not be very happy though if you are not licensed for that much.
It will pull it, slow going uphill.
I 70 has some good hills on it if that is the way you will be going.
Empty rig close to 13,000 pounds plus a 10,000 pound truck on that....23,000 gross.
Maryland and Pennsylvania DOT may not be very happy though if you are not licensed for that much.
It will pull it, slow going uphill.
I 70 has some good hills on it if that is the way you will be going.
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I have to agree with Dave. You need to be very careful. PA DOT has no sense of humor at all. I won't get into what happened when they nailed me overweight. I will say the shop owner wasn't amused when he got the fine. If I remember correctly as soon as you hit 10000 you need commercial tags period. At least that is the law in Ohio.
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Sorry for not reposnding sooner, my home computer took a lightning jolt and blew the mother board. I appreciate all the responces.
Dave the truck is right about 6,000 empty and the trailer is around 3,500 if I remember correctly. The trans is the E4OD.
The truck is above Allentown and I was just up that way weekend before last at the ATCA show in Macungie. We went around the Baltimore Beltway, up 83 to 30 to 222 and there are some pretty serious hills on that route. I will say that I pulled away from my buddy in his 1 ton dually dodge and gooseneck (by his admission, cool).
Anyway at this point I think it would be my last choice. My trailer brakes are good as are my trucks. The last thing I want is trouble with the law though.
Thanks again for all your help.
bill
Dave the truck is right about 6,000 empty and the trailer is around 3,500 if I remember correctly. The trans is the E4OD.
The truck is above Allentown and I was just up that way weekend before last at the ATCA show in Macungie. We went around the Baltimore Beltway, up 83 to 30 to 222 and there are some pretty serious hills on that route. I will say that I pulled away from my buddy in his 1 ton dually dodge and gooseneck (by his admission, cool).
Anyway at this point I think it would be my last choice. My trailer brakes are good as are my trucks. The last thing I want is trouble with the law though.
Thanks again for all your help.
bill
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I've called a couple, one guy said he only hauled cars and the other guy said he wanted $850.00! Its a 3 hour trip door to door. I had a truck hauled from Indiana not long ago that only cost me 600.00. I'l keep looking.
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I know I can run from Youngstown to Pasadena Maryland on one tank of gas and it is just a five hour trip if I do the speed limit. After seeing your weights if it was me I'd try it just go slow and don't do anything to arouse their attention.
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It has been a long time since I was up that way.
Do you know if there are any scale houses (weigh stations) on any of the roads you will be traveling?
A weekend trip may get most of the DOT out of your hair and off your rear.
Here I have my truck licensed for 20,000 pounds, WV does not give me a hard time.
I also have a DOT number.
How big is the truck you are going after?
Any chance you could get a tow dolly with brakes?
That would save you a couple thousand pounds weight.
It has been years since I have been trucking OTR.
Both of the states you are going through used to be pains in the rear if you were in a truck.
Maryland nailed a guy towing a skid steer a while back up on I 68.
8800 pound plates on the truck towing a 10,000 pound trailer.
In the end he was about 9500 pounds over weight and the fine had big numbers on the bottom line.
Do you know if there are any scale houses (weigh stations) on any of the roads you will be traveling?
A weekend trip may get most of the DOT out of your hair and off your rear.
Here I have my truck licensed for 20,000 pounds, WV does not give me a hard time.
I also have a DOT number.
How big is the truck you are going after?
Any chance you could get a tow dolly with brakes?
That would save you a couple thousand pounds weight.
It has been years since I have been trucking OTR.
Both of the states you are going through used to be pains in the rear if you were in a truck.
Maryland nailed a guy towing a skid steer a while back up on I 68.
8800 pound plates on the truck towing a 10,000 pound trailer.
In the end he was about 9500 pounds over weight and the fine had big numbers on the bottom line.
Last edited by Dave Sponaugle; Jun 26, 2007 at 10:21 PM.