GVW/Heavy load
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From: Beaumont Tx
That is one of the great things about having a non comm trailer that can haul large loads. If I remember correctly as long as you are not making money with it and have (not-for-hire) visible they can't do a thing to you. I used to run all over the northeast picking up stuff. The longest run I did with my old truck was from Ohio to Maine to get a Jeep I bought. I may be wrong but as to the weigh stations I don't believe you have to stop if your non-commercial.
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From: Puyallup, WA
Here in Washington State as long as it does not carry a commercial license, any one can drive anything.
We have a lot of the older types who should not be driving a car, but there they go in there 45' bus conversions at 44k gross and air brakes to boot. No endorsements required at all. Unless of course it is being used commercial.
I tend to forget that other states might actually pay attention to safety, and to them it does not mattet if commercial or not, but the actual vehical.
Good luck with the load!
David
We have a lot of the older types who should not be driving a car, but there they go in there 45' bus conversions at 44k gross and air brakes to boot. No endorsements required at all. Unless of course it is being used commercial.
I tend to forget that other states might actually pay attention to safety, and to them it does not mattet if commercial or not, but the actual vehical.
Good luck with the load!
David
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They get nasty here in Ohio if you are driving anything that has Air Brakes and don't have a CDL. I almost laughed myself sick when a big shot with GM bought one of those monster RVs and got nailed pulling it out of his driveway. The troopers up here don't play at all when it comes to Air Brakes. If the vehicle has them you must have a CDL period. One of the guys I was working with had his paperwork on him and offered to back the rig back in the driveway. I found out later it was a good thing he spoke up as a wrecker was on it's way to tow the RV down to the impound since the owner wasn't allowed to move. To think I used to laugh when people called the troopers up here (the grey shirt *****).
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From: Puyallup, WA
Originally Posted by Brimmstone
They get nasty here in Ohio if you are driving anything that has Air Brakes and don't have a CDL. I almost laughed myself sick when a big shot with GM bought one of those monster RVs and got nailed pulling it out of his driveway. The troopers up here don't play at all when it comes to Air Brakes. If the vehicle has them you must have a CDL period. One of the guys I was working with had his paperwork on him and offered to back the rig back in the driveway. I found out later it was a good thing he spoke up as a wrecker was on it's way to tow the RV down to the impound since the owner wasn't allowed to move. To think I used to laugh when people called the troopers up here (the grey shirt *****).
Funny sidebar, not to hijack, but the local dump used to have one fixed rate for "cars" and another rate on a per ton, or partial ton for trucks and commercial vehicals. You could leagly take a old school bus, license it as a motorhome, (no state inspections) and take a full 35' bus load of garbage to the dump - for the price of a car load. This stopped just a year or two ago.
David
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From: Beaumont Tx
Sounds kinda like what is around here when it comes to plates. My old Suburban which weighed more empty than my F350 does with my tools in it and both tanks full is under the classification of a station wagon. I remember the first time I plated it and I went to pay and it was cheaper than my 1/2 that I had at the time. I'll never forget the looks I got running scrap and hitting the scales unloaded at over 13000 pounds. I might mention the Suburban used to belong to the railroad before I bought it. I was informed it's dryweight was just under 10000 from a mechanic I knew who worked for the railroad. Turns out when they ordered them the truck were built with a massive frame to take the stresses of the wheels on the front and back.
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From: Puyallup, WA
Originally Posted by Dave Sponaugle
Story a while back on this site about a farmer hauling his own horses in his not for hire trailer in PA.
I can't remember the specifics anymore, but the fine was large.
I can't remember the specifics anymore, but the fine was large.
I carry a CDL, but I rarely haul outta state any longer, normally I fall under the 100 mile exemption rule anymore.
Thanks for the good and clear advice Dave !
David
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This has turned out to be an interesting thread. To answer Daves question, I did notice at least a couple of weight stations on our trip to Macungie a couple weeks ago I always wondered whether some day I would get stopped pulling my COE on my trailer past one of those scales. The truck that I need towed from PA is an older single axle Mack with a wheel base around 140 inches.
On another suject, there is an RV forum that I go to and the subject of the need for a CDL comes up quite frequentlyand sometimes it gets heated. Evidentally there are pretty gray areas in most state laws on needing a CDL for an RV with air brakes or over 26,000lbs. (I think).
On another suject, there is an RV forum that I go to and the subject of the need for a CDL comes up quite frequentlyand sometimes it gets heated. Evidentally there are pretty gray areas in most state laws on needing a CDL for an RV with air brakes or over 26,000lbs. (I think).
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From: Nutter Fort, WV
Air brakes require a CDL in every state I know of.
Gross weight over 26,000 pounds requires a CDL.
Any more pulling a trailer over 10, 12 or 14 thousand pounds requires a CDL depending on the state.
Everything is grey till the blue lights flash in the rear view.....everything usually turns red right after that.
The red is the negative balance on your money supply.
Gross weight over 26,000 pounds requires a CDL.
Any more pulling a trailer over 10, 12 or 14 thousand pounds requires a CDL depending on the state.
Everything is grey till the blue lights flash in the rear view.....everything usually turns red right after that.
The red is the negative balance on your money supply.
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