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I'll put it this way, may truck will run circles around by buddies 05, we both have 4x4's, 4:10 gears, 4.0's and 5 speeds, he's is stock mine isn't. I pull 2 truck lengths off the line and it never gets much better. Needless to say, his truck isn't going to be stock after this summer. We even traded trucks to see if it was the driver, no difference. This truck cold intake is a joke, the stock box is effected by engine heat as much as an intake, the air tube aborbs the heat on either. A cone filter against the opening in the header pannel will get a burst of outside air at any speed as well as a stock box, besides, the moving air blows the hot air back toward the fire wall. The only time your getting alot of heat soak is at an idle. If you want a true cai, the filter needs to be located outside of the engine compartment like the aem I have on the focus, it's in the fender well. If you get a quality intake, you should get better throttle response in all rpm ranges and inproved topend. Noticed I said quality intake, from people who have done thier homework, not an 22.99$ ebay special.
Again, you guys are talking many more mods than an intake.
Did any of you even read his post? Or any of the other ones? No one ever said a chipped, intaked, exhausted truck would not walk off and leave the stocker in the dust. Never. Not at all.
If you all would open your eyes you would see the discussion started as intakes only, before Waves sent it off in the chip/programmer direction.
I would believe my posted only talked about an intake manifold, and the possible application depending what he was considering. but really only dealt with the modification of only the intake, which wouldn't provide a significant preformance increase.
Though I doubt someone would go through all that work if they weren't looking to do more to it. Most people understand that it really wouldn't affect much by it's lonesome. I don't really see what there is to get all bent outa shape about.
Again, you guys are talking many more mods than an intake.
Did any of you even read his post? Or any of the other ones? No one ever said a chipped, intaked, exhausted truck would not walk off and leave the stocker in the dust. Never. Not at all.
If you all would open your eyes you would see the discussion started as intakes only, before Waves sent it off in the chip/programmer direction.
Yes - I read every word on his post and this thread, and yes I did try and explain how the other TWO mods I spoke of work in conjunction with an after market, more free flowing intake. I'm sorry that just seems to chap your @$$.
My eyes are wide open, I know exactly what this discussion started as and what I ws trying to explain to the original poster, the real pi$$er is your only contribution has been in the form of argument, while I was trying to explain how an air intake mod alone is only a minor gain, but in conjunction with the other TWO mods I spoke of it produces a much more noticable gain.
And again - who made you judge and jury as to what is or is not a waste of money? What is a waste to you might be pocket change for the next guy. You yourself admitted in one of your previous posts that there was a minor HP gain from an aftermarket air intake, no matter how minor that gain, there is some gain from that. So who made you the judge as to wether or not it costs too much or not? Why not be honest, tell the guy yes you get a minor gain, many options for aftermarket intakes - let him decide wether or not it's worth it. Part of what I was doing by explaining how it actually works in conjunction with the other two mods is also letting him know to really see some noticable performance gains your looking at closer to $1000, not just a couple of hundred for an intake because it takes a minimal of that combo to really start to get some real noticable gains.
Your right, my van is heavier and the exhaust design is restrictive in comparison. The Ranger SHOULD win hands down.
Lets compare apples to apples not apples to oranges, I beleive there is another board for you to discuss your aerostar on. I don't know what gear ratio you have, what tranny, how all that is mated and geared together, or if it is the same as the truck or not...somehow I doubt it. The only comparison I am intrested in seeing is to identicle rangers, one with all the goodies under the hood, one without - your van is of no use here, maybe you can find a nice soccer game to take the kids to though -
Most all people start with an intake before adding more mods, it's usally the first step, not the last. An aem cai intske on my focus was good for 6 hp at the wheels, thats about 12 at the crank. Thats with no other mods at the time, The stock system was very restrictive I will addmitt, but an intake can make a difference, on some more than others, I like the look, the sound and performance of an intake, I've owned 5 intakes on 5 different vehicles and wasn't sorry on any for the purchase.
Now where was that post with the dyno results for the individual mods that have been discussed here. If someone finds it before me, post it. I've gotta run to town for more smokes, hee hee.
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