Edge Chip - Opinions?
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Edge Chip - Opinions?
I have an 04 6.0 Diesel. Bought an Edge Chip Attitude w/ Juice Controller. Only got it for $200. I know most guys on here like the downloadable stuff but couldn't refuse the good deal on this one. I am going to also put on an intake and a 4" exhaust. Is the Edge OK or am I going to ruin the truck. Only 30,000 miles with no problems. I have heard that the Edge is a good product. I am just looking for some fuel economy and a little more power. I don't plan on being too hard on it. What do you guys think? Thanks.
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Many 6.0 owners have had tranny issues after running the Edge Attitude/Juice combo. It makes good power but doesn't address shifting as it should. Several FTE'ers love them and others hate them. Its a good deal at $200 but a Suncoast tranny rebuild will cost you from $1500-3000 so it may cost you in the long run. I've got both a Diablosport Predator and a SC 1704 (approx $800 worth of tuners) that I no longer use that I'd make someone a really good deal on (w/ a warning as to why I'm not using them), but not use anymore myself. Well, actually not so worried about the 1704 but have custom tunes on a SCT EXII now that are spec'ed for my mods.
My advise would be either to run the Edge stuff on a very conservative setting, keeping a suspecting eye on the tranny or spend an extra $200 and get a "safer" tuner. Also, good to see you're opening up the exhaust as Edge is known for its high EGT's.
My advise would be either to run the Edge stuff on a very conservative setting, keeping a suspecting eye on the tranny or spend an extra $200 and get a "safer" tuner. Also, good to see you're opening up the exhaust as Edge is known for its high EGT's.
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rle996,
The Edge is a "poor" product for the 6.0 & Torqueshift.
It is your truck and your engine & tranny. There are numerous documented cases of toasted trannies and engine problems running the Edge. You got a good deal on it because of the problems it has caused many 6.0/Torqueshift users. As the saying goes "caveat emptor".
The upgraded exhaust is a good thing.
Do NOT WASTE your money on an A/M air intake for the 6.0, they will do no good and can cause harm. The OEM Dondaldson air intake is the best filtration system on the market for the 6.0 and provides more air than the engine can use until you get to 500+ RWHP or more.
Sell the Edge and take the money you get combine it wit the money you will save by Not installing an A/M air intake and you will be able to afford an SCT XcalII with "custom tunes" and a good set of gauges (EGT, Boost, Trans).
The Edge is a "poor" product for the 6.0 & Torqueshift.
It is your truck and your engine & tranny. There are numerous documented cases of toasted trannies and engine problems running the Edge. You got a good deal on it because of the problems it has caused many 6.0/Torqueshift users. As the saying goes "caveat emptor".
The upgraded exhaust is a good thing.
Do NOT WASTE your money on an A/M air intake for the 6.0, they will do no good and can cause harm. The OEM Dondaldson air intake is the best filtration system on the market for the 6.0 and provides more air than the engine can use until you get to 500+ RWHP or more.
Sell the Edge and take the money you get combine it wit the money you will save by Not installing an A/M air intake and you will be able to afford an SCT XcalII with "custom tunes" and a good set of gauges (EGT, Boost, Trans).
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Originally Posted by rle996
I have an 04 6.0 Diesel. Bought an Edge Chip Attitude w/ Juice Controller. Only got it for $200. I know most guys on here like the downloadable stuff but couldn't refuse the good deal on this one. I am going to also put on an intake and a 4" exhaust. Is the Edge OK or am I going to ruin the truck. Only 30,000 miles with no problems. I have heard that the Edge is a good product. I am just looking for some fuel economy and a little more power. I don't plan on being too hard on it. What do you guys think? Thanks.
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Well that really sucks, guess I was hoping for at least one reply that its an ok product. Now everyone be honest, are you guys having these problems because you are racing, doing burnouts, etc. I am very conservative and just looking for some fuel mileage. I know a few guys for sure running chips for many miles and many years with no problems at all, but again they do not pound their trucks. I'm sure the SCT's are sweet but I don't want to spend thousands for a few more miles to the gallon. So you guys with problems, could it also be blamed on driving style or no - Thanks.
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We've got an '04 F-250 that we put an Edge Juice Platinum w/ attitude on... love it! Didnt get it for running it on #4 or 5 though. Its fun once or twice just to marvel at how a 7000lb truck can go 0-60 in 6.5 seconds. :-) I run it on #1 when not towing and #2 with the 8000lb trailer. Getting 22-23mpg at 75mph unloaded and 18.5 at 65mph with the trailer on the flat 'n level.
The safety features that are built in (like defueling at high EGT's), and the ability to monitor critical sensors was another big selling point.
If you're not hot-rodding it and you pay close attention to regular maintenance on things like your tranny, I think it'll serve you well. Switching to full synthetic Amsoil in everything (engine, tranny, diffs, t-case) lowered temps considerably... tranny runs a full 15-20 degrees cooler while pulling the trailer up long mountain roads here in Colorado.
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The safety features that are built in (like defueling at high EGT's), and the ability to monitor critical sensors was another big selling point.
If you're not hot-rodding it and you pay close attention to regular maintenance on things like your tranny, I think it'll serve you well. Switching to full synthetic Amsoil in everything (engine, tranny, diffs, t-case) lowered temps considerably... tranny runs a full 15-20 degrees cooler while pulling the trailer up long mountain roads here in Colorado.
FWIW,
Mike
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Originally Posted by rle996
Well that really sucks, guess I was hoping for at least one reply that its an ok product. Now everyone be honest, are you guys having these problems because you are racing, doing burnouts, etc. I am very conservative and just looking for some fuel mileage. I know a few guys for sure running chips for many miles and many years with no problems at all, but again they do not pound their trucks. I'm sure the SCT's are sweet but I don't want to spend thousands for a few more miles to the gallon. So you guys with problems, could it also be blamed on driving style or no - Thanks.
Sell the Edge on Ebay and take that money along with the money you were going to waste on an A/M air intake and you can get and SCT XcalII with custom tunes.
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I'll give you my opinion.............Junk. Which is exactly what you will have a pile of after running it for any ammount of time. All Ford trucks come with an Arkansas warranty with them as well. If it breaks in half, both pieces are still yours, if a tuner was used.
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Originally Posted by nebmike
We've got an '04 F-250 that we put an Edge Juice Platinum w/ attitude on... love it! Didnt get it for running it on #4 or 5 though. Its fun once or twice just to marvel at how a 7000lb truck can go 0-60 in 6.5 seconds. :-) I run it on #1 when not towing and #2 with the 8000lb trailer. Getting 22-23mpg at 75mph unloaded and 18.5 at 65mph with the trailer on the flat 'n level.
Originally Posted by nebmike
The safety features that are built in (like defueling at high EGT's), and the ability to monitor critical sensors was another big selling point.
Originally Posted by nebmike
If you're not hot-rodding it and you pay close attention to regular maintenance on things like your tranny, I think it'll serve you well. Switching to full synthetic Amsoil in everything (engine, tranny, diffs, t-case) lowered temps considerably... tranny runs a full 15-20 degrees cooler while pulling the trailer up long mountain roads here in Colorado.
FWIW,Mike
FWIW,Mike
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I'm gonna thow my two cents in here as a FORMER edge user I would do as the others have suggested and get the SCT xcal II. That being said if your gonna insist on keeping it do yourself a favor and NEVER run it above setting 3. I and many others can attest to the tranny problems that little black box can and will cause.
Good luck.
Good luck.
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I have to agree with almost everybody who has posted so far; I too am a former Edge user. It has cost me head gaskets for sure and I ran level 1 95+% of the time with a short burst (maybe 2 weeks) at level 3. The head gaskets took a long time to rear their ugly heads... Now I'm building an engine with Matt from LIPD; I'll run his tunes and never look back. I haven't had any tranny problems but I never drove the truck like a race car either.
Do not scrap the engine in you rig for the sake of a crappy piggy back chip. Spend a little more $$$ and talk to Matt or Eric and do what's best for your truck.
Just my $0.02
Do not scrap the engine in you rig for the sake of a crappy piggy back chip. Spend a little more $$$ and talk to Matt or Eric and do what's best for your truck.
Just my $0.02
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Originally Posted by CobraJay
Where can I buy the SCT XcalII? Any suggestions on exhaust? Thanks.
Call Matt at LIPD to order your SCT XcalII with "custom tunes" he is the leading 6.0 tuning guru. Also he can set you up with the exhaust of choice around here MBRP in either cat back or turbo back.
www.lidiesel.com
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Talked with a Josh at LIPD and they do seem pretty knowledgeable. Think I might go with the SCT. Seems more reliable. Anyone want to buy an Edge Chip real cheap, lol. Well see, I'm still not sure. Thanks.
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