Performance Mods and repairs
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From: waynesville, mo.
Originally Posted by tex25025
There are other things that could throw off ebp sensor readings though, not the exhaust. If your Oil temp is out of whack, that would throw off epr, which in turn would throw off the ebp sensor since I do believe that it monitors and controls the epr(I could be wrong, but I think it does). Or the epr could be out of whack which would throw the ebp sensor out of whack(I would imagine, I'm not a mechanic by any means, that is why I go to the dealership to get it done(which they do continue to service my truck even with my having a no cat exhaust).
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Originally Posted by vloney
HUH? Ebp sensor is an input, nothing else. Its there to measure exhaust back pressure. Oil temperature wouldnt have any influence on it at all. I've been a certified diesel tech since we were required to be certified. I still have yet to see an "epr". Boost is controlled by oil temp, map, maf, ebp. We have reference numbers to compare to when diagnosing a problem. So when any changes are made, what do we compare to?
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Originally Posted by tex25025
It's feedback input isn't it? Ebps sensors also help to regulate the epr, which gets its information from the intake air sensor and the oil temperature(that is the connection I was making). Epr is used for colder start operations which is why it uses the sensors that it does(best to my knowledge it has to do with the closing of the turbo outlet(controls oil from the turbo pedestal?)).
I believe you are confusing the 6.0 with the 7.3, I don't think a 6.0 has an "EBPR" valve like the 7.3.
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I just bought an 05' CC DRW, selling the 7.3 to my company.
I have a friend that may or may not be a Ford Diesel Tech...
I was told that the EGR on the "y" pipe passenger side needs to be removed and the pipe welded shut. Then buy a new EGR and place it next to the one on top of the engine, hook the wiring harness to it and leave ot be - not plumbed. Any of you have any experience with this? Apparently that EGR is associated with the engine oil cooler - which is a bad thing.
Then there is the HPOP pressure line wich is a Ford style quick connect. This thing apparently can wallow itself out and cause a high pressure leak. There is a factory fix for this. A symptom is long crank on warm start up. Other than that (and getting the correct re-flash) I was told the 05' PSD is as reliable as the 7.3.
Am I headed in the right direction here? I plan on doing nothing to the truck other than gauges. I went overboard on the 7.3 and I don't need that headache again.
Dan
I have a friend that may or may not be a Ford Diesel Tech...
I was told that the EGR on the "y" pipe passenger side needs to be removed and the pipe welded shut. Then buy a new EGR and place it next to the one on top of the engine, hook the wiring harness to it and leave ot be - not plumbed. Any of you have any experience with this? Apparently that EGR is associated with the engine oil cooler - which is a bad thing.
Then there is the HPOP pressure line wich is a Ford style quick connect. This thing apparently can wallow itself out and cause a high pressure leak. There is a factory fix for this. A symptom is long crank on warm start up. Other than that (and getting the correct re-flash) I was told the 05' PSD is as reliable as the 7.3.
Am I headed in the right direction here? I plan on doing nothing to the truck other than gauges. I went overboard on the 7.3 and I don't need that headache again.
Dan
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Originally Posted by origcharger
I believe you are confusing the 6.0 with the 7.3, I don't think a 6.0 has an "EBPR" valve like the 7.3.
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Originally Posted by TheFist
If I can get my current problem squared away with my 05 6.0, and after the warranty expires, I'm thinking of doing some minor mods.
I've read on here about cat delete exhuast and doing away with the EGR.
I'm considering a five inch exhuast system, done as described above, getting rid of the EGR and maybe that Banks econo tune.
What have been peoples experiences with dealerships when trucks with these types of mods need work? I'd let the service writer know up front all thats been done. My fear is, they'll refuse the work, or just blame all the problems on the mods and not be able to get the truck fixed.
Opinions please.
I've read on here about cat delete exhuast and doing away with the EGR.
I'm considering a five inch exhuast system, done as described above, getting rid of the EGR and maybe that Banks econo tune.
What have been peoples experiences with dealerships when trucks with these types of mods need work? I'd let the service writer know up front all thats been done. My fear is, they'll refuse the work, or just blame all the problems on the mods and not be able to get the truck fixed.
Opinions please.
5" exhaust is a waste of money on a stock truck even with the banks. Since the EBP controls VGT and EGR position why would you want to tamper with exhaust back-pessure?
When you start tampering with the design (disconnecting things) of the factory air management system you are asking for additional problems. As for as service, on those type of mods I would not expect Ford to work on it.
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Originally Posted by vloney
Yeah, he's talking about the wastegate solenoid on a 7.3. There is no wastegate on a 6.0
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From: waynesville, mo.
Originally Posted by tex25025
That is strange, not that I'm doubting y'all on my getting confused, but the only experiance with the 7.3 that I have had is I knew a guy during my undergrad work that drove a lat 90's ford diesel, at that time I didn't know what the displacement was/is. Strange that I would know that(if I was correct in what I said).
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Originally Posted by TheFist
If I can get my current problem squared away with my 05 6.0, and after the warranty expires, I'm thinking of doing some minor mods.
I've read on here about cat delete exhuast and doing away with the EGR.
I'm considering a five inch exhuast system, done as described above, getting rid of the EGR and maybe that Banks econo tune.
What have been peoples experiences with dealerships when trucks with these types of mods need work? I'd let the service writer know up front all thats been done. My fear is, they'll refuse the work, or just blame all the problems on the mods and not be able to get the truck fixed.
Opinions please.
I've read on here about cat delete exhuast and doing away with the EGR.
I'm considering a five inch exhuast system, done as described above, getting rid of the EGR and maybe that Banks econo tune.
What have been peoples experiences with dealerships when trucks with these types of mods need work? I'd let the service writer know up front all thats been done. My fear is, they'll refuse the work, or just blame all the problems on the mods and not be able to get the truck fixed.
Opinions please.
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