[updated:LAST EDITED ON 26-Aug-02 AT 08:59 PM (EST)]I see that there is now a V10 micro tuner. Does the micro tuner do the same thing as the Diablo chip? What are the HP and tourque increases I can expect with the V10 tuner as compared to the chip?

Thanks!

When on two wheels-
FXSTC
Mesa- AZ

2003, F-350, Lariat, V10, CC, LWB, Dark Shadow Grey, 6sp Manual, "get off your lazy *ss" FX4, 4.30, Camper Pkg, Sirius Satellite Radio, Borla cat-back, Granatelli MAF, K&N Gen II FIPK.

 

good questions!!!!

damn if i didn't get a woodie when i saw this thing too.... i like my diablo chip (i guess.... it didn't really work exactly as avertised and i wouldn't have bought it if i had known that... but the few benefits that worked are nice)...

BUT... there is NO real info about this thing anywhere... not here nor there... not even on SUPERCHIP's website???? makes you wonder!


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a side note to ya....

even tho i like my diablo chip.... the fact that they BLATENTLY lie about the thing would mke me NOT recommend this chip to anyone that has a V10 (not sure about the others). you see, diablo makes claims that the chip can fix a speedo... but i have yet to have them fix mine nor have i talked with anyone that has had any luck with them getting their's working either.

now i have no idea if the superchips product is any better... but the idea of being able to tweak it yourself would seem to be better.
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Both the Diablo and the Superchip claim to update data throughout the powerband. Have you found this to be true? Has anyone out there been able to compare these? I might just wait on this new tuner. With all the performance mods, I still feel it's a dog on the freeway. But absolutely no problem in 4 low on a 35 deg incline!

-CRJ
2k X on Weld 16 x 10 Typhoons w/ 35 x 12.5 AT's. Pro Comp 4" lift with 6x Rancho 9000's, Liftmaster trackbar equalizers. K&N intake, AirRaid throttle body spacer, cat back 3" sst exhaust into Flowmaster big block, 2.5" dual out.

 

I don't believe Diablo or Superchips has ever claimed they can correct speedometers with all ECU codes. Neither do they claim they can change the rev/speed limiters with all ECU codes. I think your saying Diablo blatently lied is, well, not entirely correct. I've had to tell customers in the past that the chip couldn't adjust it after Diablo tried, sometimes more than once. In such cases, baring other custom code, I offer to exchange their chip for a non-custom fee chip (refunding the custom fee). Ask your Diablo dealer to do this with your chip. Diablo as well as Superchips, tries to work with their customers when such issues arise but they never been able to resolve all issues with all ECU codes. Case in point, Frank had to tell a customer this morning that Superchips could not remove the speed limiter on his Bronco.

We posted information about the product in various sections here. Basically, the performance information is the same as a chip because its using the same exact performance code as a chip. The only difference is the method the code is delivered and the user adjustable parameters. With many, but not all ECU codes, the shift firmness can be adjusted, shift points adjusted, rev/speed limiter raised, and speedo adjusted.

 

not slaming you ken..... but all of the info i could pull up on diablo prior to buying the chip was that it could do this (speedo recal)... nowhere in their info do i remember seeing anything about certain ECU codes!

then to add all kinds of insult, the MONEY BACK guarrente is bogus.... the dealer i used would take the chip back and refund me for the chip, but keep the custom fee? even tho he couldn't do what diablo and HE claimed (fix the speedo)... he ended up telling me that he would refund the custom fee and i could keep the chip.... this was several months ago.... never have received anything from this guy (although he keeps telling me it is in the mail)... so i ended up getting royally screwed by this guy.

i gave this guy a whole lot of good faith and got reamed for it!

with my bad experiences, i'd never buy another diablo product again.... and NEVER EVER deal with this scam artist again! unfortunatly i had a few ppl go to him since he had me feeling pretty good with his snake oil at first... so i feel stupid on many levels because of this guy.... if you want to know who he is ask me in a PM (he is in so cal).

please, no one take this to mean anything about ken.... he seems very much on the level and i would have taken my chip needs to him if i could have, but needed a custom read as diablo didn't have my code.

i'd like to hear feed back from anyone that gets this microtuner.... if it works and i can sell my diablo chip, i might trade up.

 

>not slaming you ken..... but all of the info i could pull up
>on diablo prior to buying the chip was that it could do this
>(speedo recal)... nowhere in their info do i remember seeing
>anything about certain ECU codes!

Frankly, its an unfair characterization of Diablo and its dealers. None of the chip companies claim they can do all the computers.

>then to add all kinds of insult, the MONEY BACK guarrente is
>bogus....

No, its not. Its your dealer that is bogus.

>the dealer i used would take the chip back and
>refund me for the chip, but keep the custom fee? even tho he
>couldn't do what diablo and HE claimed (fix the speedo)...
>he ended up telling me that he would refund the custom fee
>and i could keep the chip.... this was several months
>ago.... never have received anything from this guy (although
>he keeps telling me it is in the mail)... so i ended up
>getting royally screwed by this guy.
>
>i gave this guy a whole lot of good faith and got reamed for
>it!
>
>with my bad experiences, i'd never buy another diablo
>product again.... and NEVER EVER deal with this scam artist
>again! unfortunatly i had a few ppl go to him since he had
>me feeling pretty good with his snake oil at first... so i
>feel stupid on many levels because of this guy.... if you
>want to know who he is ask me in a PM (he is in so cal).

Sounds like it was a case of a bad dealer and not Diablo's fault. Just as with Superchips, it is up to the dealers to maintain their policies. In our case, if we can't provide custom code we offer to switch out the chip for a non-custom or if they want, they get their money back. The only time we've not immediately given money back is through clerical error (immediately corrected once we because aware of it) which can happen from time to time as we're only human.

As you noted, people ought to contact you privately if they want more info. I don't believe in discussing other dealers by name here.

Its unfortunate you've had this experience and I don't want this to reflect poorly on all Diablo dealers. Give me a ring, 770-806-1955. I'll see if we can assist and if Diablo can do anything for you. The custom tick fee ought to be on the chip so we can try to handle any custom requests you may have without incurring a custom fee.

BTW, do you know your ECU code?

 

thanks ken... i will give you a call in the next couple of days.

i agree that it is the dealers fault, but unfortunatly... this bad experience gets diablo in trouble too.... as a dealer, he represents diablo as a company (at least to me).

as i said above... you and your company seem to be on the level and it was too bad diablo didn't have my code as you would have surely had my business as i enjoy the forum you provide to us.

yes... the custom tick is there (i remember him telling me about this in-case he ever went out of business, i could still have the chip burned without incurring further cost via another diablo dealer).

the ECU CODE is WGF2.

 

If I were you I'd call Diablo and let them know. Just as with any independent dealer organization, if the mother company doesn't know then they can't exert pressure for change. Also, call PDQ (Diablo's USA distributor). If you don't have their number let me know.

 

Back to my original question--

Does the tuner do exactly the same thing as the Chip?

When on two wheels-
FXSTC
Mesa- AZ

2003, F-350, Lariat, V10, CC, LWB, Dark Shadow Grey, 6sp Manual, "get off your lazy *ss" FX4, 4.30, Camper Pkg, Sirius Satellite Radio, Borla cat-back, Granatelli MAF, K&N Gen II FIPK, et. al., ad infinitum, ad nauseum...

 

The tuner does the exact same programming as the Superchips chip. Diablo writes their own code so the tuner is going to be similar to the Diablo chip but not exactly the same. The Diablo tends to give a little more HP on average.