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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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2004-2007 I need help again!

Well here I go again. I used this board alot prior to the purchase of my 04 F-150 and a lot of great help. Now I ordered the same truck in the 07 model. XL Reg cab 2 wheel drive heavy duty payload pkg that's it! Well let me say this is not the truck of the year that the 04 was and that is for sure.
Truck does not handle the load as well, I have lots less power, shifting is strange, does not want to drop down.
My questions for thoes in the know are: Did the dealer order the wrong option package or is the truck that much lesss?
Somethings I would like to know.
Is there a 5.4 and a 5.4 3 valve? Is that right and how do you tell the difference? Is it on the fender where it says 5.4 triton> Should it say 5.4 3V?
Are there different heavy duty payload packages? And is the 07 8200 GVWR less than the 04?
I have perfered equipment PKG 502.A
I am pulling the same stuff this month as i did when i got rid of the 04 and I am not happy. Lots less power it seems. Also the brakes are way worse. I know the old brakes left dust on the wheels but they stopped!!! These, no dust and they stop but boy do they get hot. At this rate we be going to changing things often> I pull farm stuff so most of that don't have brakes. Wel that is my list. I will say that the truck drives better "no front end shimmy" Seats still sit to low other than that everything is great.
I am going to miss my 04 Thanks all. Hats
 
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Could the power and shifting be because its brand new? I know that as the miles add up, the motors seem to get more power, and overall perform better. I dont know how many you have on it already.

As for the 5.4..... its certainly a 3 valve. They have not made the 2 valve versions since 04.

I have not been made aware of any real material changes from the 04 to the 07. I think these issues may come down to 'newness'. I am glad to see you dont have any of those shimmies anymore. Thats the reason I traded my 04 in (amongst others...).
 
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Old Jun 1, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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Give it time; it needs to be broken in. My brakes didn’t really start to grab until 4500 miles.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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I would suggest that if you want to confirm that you really received the HD Payload package, to check the GVWR listed on the door (or door post) sticker. It should identify the GVWR as 8200.
You can also confirm that you have the 7-lug wheels instead of the more common 6-lug.
Good luck.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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is the axle ratio the same on all the "HD payload" package trucks? cause that would make a difference pulling the big loads.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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In Canada, the only ratio available with the HD payload package is 4.10 and the rear end is a 10.25 as oppossed to the 8.8 that comes in the reg. F150's.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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I still have not looked at the wheels// Gee way to busy, but tomorow oil change and then look everything over. Boy did they cheapen this up. Insulation only under brake pedal on firewall? Also no insulation under hood? And now the rear shocks squeek? Anyway sat on the back today visiting a customer and noticed how far down the back would go. He's a big farmer LOL. Then heard the squeek up and down. Also noticed that the shocks are not very firm. We bounced the back up and down some to hear the squeek. The top cover of the shocks are plastic I think. Any way still looking into this 502A pkg number. Wondering if there is more than one payload package.
Total GVRW is 8200 and the rear is 4800// so much for that 2000lbs load of cow dung in the Toyota! Still that thing on the door is a tire rating as I understand it, not how heavy the truck is? If anyone knows about the 502A pkg that would help.
Calling the ford 800 number again next week. I had talked to them and that person didnot have some of the answers that i wanted so I will try again. Maybe I can get a more truck smart person this time. Also going to a different dealer next week so I hope the main MECH there can help, as he is pretty good.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 06:30 AM
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502A just means it's an XL. Has nothing to do with the HD option. The HD option is listed as 627.

PM me or post your email address, and I'll send you a pdf copy of the 2007 F150 Order Guide.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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Well if you check under the hood it should say 5.4L Triton 3V most say that
 
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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The 10.25 " rear axle on the HD package is rated at 5300 lbs.

You are correct, the 4800 lbs is the combined tire rating on the D rated tires.

Don't forget, you also have a heavier truck than the ones without the HD package. Also, the rear end is a 4.10 which means that for 4 revs of the engine, you get one wheel revolution.

So, you may need to step on the gas a little more if the previous truck had a 3.55 ratio.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Powerdude
Don't forget, you also have a heavier truck than the ones without the HD package. Also, the rear end is a 4.10 which means that for 4 revs of the engine, you get one wheel revolution.

So, you may need to step on the gas a little more if the previous truck had a 3.55 ratio.
other way around man...the 4.10 ratio means the motor has to do less work to get moving.

it sounds like you bought a normal xl 8ft bed truck with 3.55 gears...you might want to check your order sheet...btw, I'm 270lbs and my truck barely moves 1" when I sit on the tailgate. And I've only got a FX4...
 
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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So sorry for the delay getting back to everyone. Been real busy. Ok ,so here is the gist of things. Well everything that the truck is suposed to have is there. 7 bolt rims 5.4 3V 4:10 LS rearend ect.
That being said// not the same truck I had before " the 2004" was better set up for the loads. Pulling and stopping. The power is getting better/ I think these trucks learn? Still I am going to the Dealer and get some questions answered// If I ever slow down with work here. 2500 miles in less than three weeks!!! Crap I need to change the oil again!.
BIG Thanks to svt2205 for the paperwork, that helped alot!
Hey, does any one know if the brakes can be re-adjusted to put more stoping power on the rear wheels? That is what I think would help some and better shocks.
I guess i would say I think this trucks drives and rides better. Seats still suck but a cushion helped that. And It is an XL so I did not bother with better seats/ next time that will be an upgrade for sure. Well need sleep now so thanks again to the members. Hats2wt
 
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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i have the same truck. and this might sound stupid for a new truck but pupm the brakes.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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The 04 on up have more stopping power on the rear brakes. They did this purposley to allow these trucks to stop better. You will find out when the front pads need to be changed because the back ones wear at just about the same rate.
 
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