First Ticket Ever! =(
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From: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted by Dustin1690
stupid cops
Last edited by cmpd1781; Jun 1, 2007 at 05:38 PM.
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From: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted by Storm
Well here's what they said when I called..
I cant take DD, i'm not eligible... 2 other options is pay the fine.. Or go in there and see the Prosecuter and the Judge and ask them what I can do to not get this on my record.. Or take it to court.. I dont care about the fine, I'll pay the fine.. I just don't want this on my record.. I can ONLY imagine what Geico would do if they saw a ticket for 70 in 45 with an 8k lb truck.. Thats my worry.. Not that the money is tight or anything.. I just dont want that raise in price b/c how many people do you know that pays $130 month for full coverage on 2 cars at the age of 25?
I cant take DD, i'm not eligible... 2 other options is pay the fine.. Or go in there and see the Prosecuter and the Judge and ask them what I can do to not get this on my record.. Or take it to court.. I dont care about the fine, I'll pay the fine.. I just don't want this on my record.. I can ONLY imagine what Geico would do if they saw a ticket for 70 in 45 with an 8k lb truck.. Thats my worry.. Not that the money is tight or anything.. I just dont want that raise in price b/c how many people do you know that pays $130 month for full coverage on 2 cars at the age of 25?
Traffic school (4 hrs) does the same thing...and I always give that option......
I've had speeding tickets before and they suck, and I hope it works out for you......
Tuned
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I'm a cop, so I'll try to clear some things up.
1) We don't have to show you the radar.
2) Pacing is perfectly legitimate. A lot of cars on my department don't even have radars since we have a dedicated traffic unit. I was on my way to an alarm run a few nights back doing 60 in a 35 and not gaining on a car in front of me. If I had been cancelled on the run and put back in service I could have stopped him and written him for speeding despite not having a radar in my car.
3) Speed estimating via timing or visual is perfectly legitimate if the individual is trained in such methods. I couldn't write you on speed estimation because I don't have the required training, but you can guarantee the traffic guys do.
Take care and good luck with whatever you decide to do.
1) We don't have to show you the radar.
2) Pacing is perfectly legitimate. A lot of cars on my department don't even have radars since we have a dedicated traffic unit. I was on my way to an alarm run a few nights back doing 60 in a 35 and not gaining on a car in front of me. If I had been cancelled on the run and put back in service I could have stopped him and written him for speeding despite not having a radar in my car.
3) Speed estimating via timing or visual is perfectly legitimate if the individual is trained in such methods. I couldn't write you on speed estimation because I don't have the required training, but you can guarantee the traffic guys do.
Take care and good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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From: Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted by jake00
if the cop paced you, the wasn't he also going over the limit?
That's been brought up (unsuccessfully) in court too.......
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Ironic, isn't it, that a cop can endanger peoples' lives by speeding, in order to catch someone who is endangering peoples' lives by speeding? It's an imperfect system, and a pretty good argument for photo radar.
A couple of months ago, a cop rolled through a four-way stop, cutting me off (it was my turn) in order to go catch a guy who had just rolled through the same stop sign. That's just not right. The first guy didn't cut anybody off, but when the cop rolled through on me I had to slam on my brakes.
A couple of months ago, a cop rolled through a four-way stop, cutting me off (it was my turn) in order to go catch a guy who had just rolled through the same stop sign. That's just not right. The first guy didn't cut anybody off, but when the cop rolled through on me I had to slam on my brakes.
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From: Charlotte, NC
Obviously, Kel....the goal is to do it safely.......Running into Joe-Citizen while trying to catch someone who just ran a light or stop sign is not good (purposeful understatement)......
The cop who has to speed to catch up to a speeder is doing it for a short period of time.....The original speeder has likely been doing it for dozens or hundreds of miles (on the interstate).....That speeder is stopped and will likely not speed again (or at least to the extent that he or she was speeding) for the rest of the trip for fear of another ticket---problem solved.
And while the lights are on, there's a general tendency for approaching traffic to wake up and slow down (if speeding)........
The cop who has to speed to catch up to a speeder is doing it for a short period of time.....The original speeder has likely been doing it for dozens or hundreds of miles (on the interstate).....That speeder is stopped and will likely not speed again (or at least to the extent that he or she was speeding) for the rest of the trip for fear of another ticket---problem solved.
And while the lights are on, there's a general tendency for approaching traffic to wake up and slow down (if speeding)........
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Originally Posted by cmpd1781
That speeder is stopped and will likely not speed again (or at least to the extent that he or she was speeding) for the rest of the trip for fear of another ticket---problem solved.
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Originally Posted by KelVarnson
Ironic, isn't it, that a cop can endanger peoples' lives by speeding, in order to catch someone who is endangering peoples' lives by speeding? It's an imperfect system, and a pretty good argument for photo radar.
A couple of months ago, a cop rolled through a four-way stop, cutting me off (it was my turn) in order to go catch a guy who had just rolled through the same stop sign. That's just not right. The first guy didn't cut anybody off, but when the cop rolled through on me I had to slam on my brakes.
A couple of months ago, a cop rolled through a four-way stop, cutting me off (it was my turn) in order to go catch a guy who had just rolled through the same stop sign. That's just not right. The first guy didn't cut anybody off, but when the cop rolled through on me I had to slam on my brakes.
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Originally Posted by KelVarnson
A couple of months ago, a cop rolled through a four-way stop, cutting me off (it was my turn) in order to go catch a guy who had just rolled through the same stop sign. That's just not right. The first guy didn't cut anybody off, but when the cop rolled through on me I had to slam on my brakes.
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Originally Posted by CounterMaker
...if you run a stop sign SOMEONE has to catch you and stop you...so in turn someone has to break the law to do so...and that is where the cop steps in...
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Originally Posted by CruiserClass
Thanks for the well wishes, I really appreciate it. One correction, though, we are not breaking the law when we disregard traffic control devices, speed limits, etc. We are given statutory authority to disregard when there is need and we exercise due regard for the public's safety.
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Originally Posted by CounterMaker
a little off topic but doesnt a cop endanger his/her life everyday for our safety?
...if you run a stop sign SOMEONE has to catch you and stop you...so in turn someone has to break the law to do so...
I know cops are human, and sometimes make bad choices, like this guy did.
...ok sorry for the off topic post but it gets me fired up when people question cops decisions...they have about 1 second to make a decision and we have a lifetime to critisize it...
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From: Central NY
every time i've gotten a ticket, i've gone and spoken with, or called, the ADA.
i had one thank me! said that they rather have people pleade down out of court so they don't waste the court's time or there's....ask for a non-moving violation, or if you have to, "failure to obey a traffic control device"
works in NY.
i had one thank me! said that they rather have people pleade down out of court so they don't waste the court's time or there's....ask for a non-moving violation, or if you have to, "failure to obey a traffic control device"
works in NY.