Replacing Captain Seats with Bench
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Replacing Captain Seats with Bench
'91 F-150 4x4 M5OD SuperCab with Captain Seats
I'm looking to replace my Captain Seats with a 40/20/40 bench (1st choice) or 50/50 bench (2nd choice).
Any input is greatly appreciated.
If there is a special forum for interior stuff, let me know.
TX F-150
I'm looking to replace my Captain Seats with a 40/20/40 bench (1st choice) or 50/50 bench (2nd choice).
Any input is greatly appreciated.
If there is a special forum for interior stuff, let me know.
TX F-150
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The type of bench seats you are talking about were not factory options in 1991 trucks. So, even if you are using Ford seats, you are gonna have to pick out your seat of choice and then make it work in a custom sort of way. This could be problematic depending on what seat you choose, I guess it depends on how much trouble you want to go to in order to get what you want.
I recently converted my '91 from bench to captain's chairs. I used Ford chairs that are correct for my year and I *still* had to custom-fit them because none of the existing holes lined up and the floor wasn't even dimpled for buckets as I expected.
If you want the easiest method, you will want to put in a bench seat that is correct for your truck, but you will still have to drill new holes in the floor. Where in Texas are you? I am in Austin.
I recently converted my '91 from bench to captain's chairs. I used Ford chairs that are correct for my year and I *still* had to custom-fit them because none of the existing holes lined up and the floor wasn't even dimpled for buckets as I expected.
If you want the easiest method, you will want to put in a bench seat that is correct for your truck, but you will still have to drill new holes in the floor. Where in Texas are you? I am in Austin.
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The only options for bench are a bench with solid back. bench with arm rest and bench with split back for super cabs broncos. .All bottoms are solid . Any seat from 80 to 97 (97 if F2-350) will bolt to exsiting holes . You will need center seat belts as they are different on buckets to bench .
The 40/20/40 is bucket seats with a jumper seat instead of console. This setup is $$$$ you probably could buy a set of after market one for prices the 40/20/40 has been going for. But look around you may get lucky
There was no 50/50 in full sized for this style truck . Unless you count split back 50/50
You can fab in any seat you want . But the newer 97 up trucks are different width as the benches go. But if you get a stock set they will bolt in . Most post are for the other way bench to bucket .
Good luck LOST
The 40/20/40 is bucket seats with a jumper seat instead of console. This setup is $$$$ you probably could buy a set of after market one for prices the 40/20/40 has been going for. But look around you may get lucky
There was no 50/50 in full sized for this style truck . Unless you count split back 50/50
You can fab in any seat you want . But the newer 97 up trucks are different width as the benches go. But if you get a stock set they will bolt in . Most post are for the other way bench to bucket .
Good luck LOST
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Some of that is not true, lostin90s. The bench seat will not bolt into any of the captain's chair holes. OTOH, the seatbelt holes ARE the same, assuming he used a correct-for-year bench seat.
The only thing in my truck that had any provision for captain's chairs was the carpet - it was marked on the underside for where the holes needed to be to mount the buckets.
The only thing in my truck that had any provision for captain's chairs was the carpet - it was marked on the underside for where the holes needed to be to mount the buckets.
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lostin90s,
yes, i was calling the split back a 50/50 because of the ratio it splits the back into.
I thought the 40/20/40 bench was a solid bottom with the center 20% folding forward to "simulate" buckets. Also when folded forward, i.e. laying flat, it has a small storage compartment.
I am describing this from how i remember the catalogs of the 92-96 models.
The '92-'96 model only had some cosmetic changes to the instrument cluster, front grille and lights, CORRECT????
I am assuming the rest is the same as in a '91 model.
Jas88,
did the outer (near the doors) holes of the captain chairs NOT fit the outer holes of the bench you put in? btw, what type bench did you use?
am in Houston.
Thanks everybody for your inputs.
yes, i was calling the split back a 50/50 because of the ratio it splits the back into.
I thought the 40/20/40 bench was a solid bottom with the center 20% folding forward to "simulate" buckets. Also when folded forward, i.e. laying flat, it has a small storage compartment.
I am describing this from how i remember the catalogs of the 92-96 models.
The '92-'96 model only had some cosmetic changes to the instrument cluster, front grille and lights, CORRECT????
I am assuming the rest is the same as in a '91 model.
Jas88,
did the outer (near the doors) holes of the captain chairs NOT fit the outer holes of the bench you put in? btw, what type bench did you use?
am in Houston.
Thanks everybody for your inputs.
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did the outer (near the doors) holes of the captain chairs NOT fit the outer holes of the bench you put in? btw, what type bench did you use?
Is your interior gray? If so, I have a factory correct 50/50 bench you may want to take a look at.
FYI the accepted lingo with regards to the "splits" you are mentioning references the seat bottom (called the cushion), not the seat back.
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The '92-'96 model only had some cosmetic changes to the instrument cluster, front grille and lights, CORRECT????
I am assuming the rest is the same as in a '91 model.
I am assuming the rest is the same as in a '91 model.
1) Complete front clip - fenders, hood, grille, bumper, etc.
2) Steel wheels were new design. Aluminum wheels carried over but changed in '94.
3) Bodyside mouldings were now body colored on XLT's (Lariat name dropped)
4) Plastic insert in XLT tailgate bezel now black instead of red.
5) Dash and door panels + steering column/wheel completely different, more "car-like"
6) Upholstery choices completely different
7) Supercabs now have one-piece window on extra cab instead of split 2-piece.
8) Seat designs for captain's chairs and console changed
9) Outside mirrors now "car-style" instead of swing-lock
Someone jump in here and tell me what major thing(s) I forgot because I am sure I did.
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Originally Posted by jas88
Some of that is not true, lostin90s. The bench seat will not bolt into any of the captain's chair holes. OTOH, the seatbelt holes ARE the same, assuming he used a correct-for-year bench seat.
The only thing in my truck that had any provision for captain's chairs was the carpet - it was marked on the underside for where the holes needed to be to mount the buckets.
The only thing in my truck that had any provision for captain's chairs was the carpet - it was marked on the underside for where the holes needed to be to mount the buckets.
And the outside holes worked for the buckets with jumper I put in other truck . Had to drill holes but worked.Fit fine
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The captain's chairs were redesigned in '92, along with the console. Perhaps they made them to be more "universal". I don't know. What I do know is he has a '91, and I've got a '91, and the holes did not line up, they weren't even close. I also have a '91 Bronco with factory CCs so I could check it to make sure I was putting them in the right place, and, like I said, the carpet was marked for where the holes should go for the CCs and they were not in the same place as for the bench.
On mine, it wasn't the spacing between the rear bolts that was the problem so much as it was the spacing between the front and the back. The bench seat rear bolt is about 4" farther back than that of the CCs.
On mine, it wasn't the spacing between the rear bolts that was the problem so much as it was the spacing between the front and the back. The bench seat rear bolt is about 4" farther back than that of the CCs.
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Originally Posted by jas88
The captain's chairs were redesigned in '92, along with the console. Perhaps they made them to be more "universal". I don't know. What I do know is he has a '91, and I've got a '91, and the holes did not line up, they weren't even close. I also have a '91 Bronco with factory CCs so I could check it to make sure I was putting them in the right place, and, like I said, the carpet was marked for where the holes should go for the CCs and they were not in the same place as for the bench.
On mine, it wasn't the spacing between the rear bolts that was the problem so much as it was the spacing between the front and the back. The bench seat rear bolt is about 4" farther back than that of the CCs.
On mine, it wasn't the spacing between the rear bolts that was the problem so much as it was the spacing between the front and the back. The bench seat rear bolt is about 4" farther back than that of the CCs.
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I know this thread is a month old but I just made the switch to captains chairs and console today.
Mine is a '89 supercab that had the split-back bench (50/50). I got the seats and console from a 1991 supercab.
As was mentioned in an earlier post, NONE of the existing holes lined up with the new brackets...not even close, which really surprised me.
I too used the bottom of the carpet (actually mine has vinyl mat) as a guide, there are provisions for the different seat configurations on it. A little time spent lining everything up and a few holes later, the new seats were in. Tomorrow I've gotta grab some big washers and some nuts to finish the job but they look nice.
By the way, my wife looks at me like I'm crazy so I've got to tell someone...I think I got a pretty good deal on my seats and stuff.
I grabbed the front seats, rear seats, console, Lariat door panels and carpet (that I'll probably never use) all for $130.
I've had a hard time finding a nice blue bucket interior in nice condition so I'm tickled.
Mine is a '89 supercab that had the split-back bench (50/50). I got the seats and console from a 1991 supercab.
As was mentioned in an earlier post, NONE of the existing holes lined up with the new brackets...not even close, which really surprised me.
I too used the bottom of the carpet (actually mine has vinyl mat) as a guide, there are provisions for the different seat configurations on it. A little time spent lining everything up and a few holes later, the new seats were in. Tomorrow I've gotta grab some big washers and some nuts to finish the job but they look nice.
By the way, my wife looks at me like I'm crazy so I've got to tell someone...I think I got a pretty good deal on my seats and stuff.
I grabbed the front seats, rear seats, console, Lariat door panels and carpet (that I'll probably never use) all for $130.
I've had a hard time finding a nice blue bucket interior in nice condition so I'm tickled.
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That's similar to what I got on mine except yours may have been in better shape. I paid $100 for the front and back seats, the console, and both doors (which I got the pw/pl from as well as the door panels). But the deal ended there as the front seats were somewhat torn up. I had the captain's chairs recovered using the original-type material I found on ebay and that ran me $600. They are beautiful, tho.
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