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Old May 30, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Towing mileage really BITES!

OK..Don't get me wrong...I love the performance of my PSD...but last weekend, I towed a 3 horse trailer, bumper pull, 2000 miles and averaged only 10mpg. Now I thought diesels would do better then this with a load. Aren't they rated to pull more so when you do have a load, it doesn't bother it much so you don't really lose mileage? The trailer is only about 2100lbs and on the way back, I only had a little 400lb horse in it. Yesterday, I picked up a gooseneck 4 horse trailer, and only got about 7MPG. Although this was only a short distance....this was all the console showed.

Is this normal or is something in desperate need of help with my truck?

Normal driving to and from work, unloaded, I get about 21 - 23 hwy and 17-18 city.
 
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Old May 30, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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I get 12 plus sometimes 13 on the flat and level with a 36 ft, 8000 lb gooseneck at 60 to 65 mph. If you don't cruse at a constant speed below 65 mileage will go down substantially.
 
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Old May 30, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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Ahhhhh OK then that would explain it. I was running about 75 for most of the 2K trip. Although I did notice that it came up just a touch when I would set the cruise at 70. I just didn't think that it would make that much of a difference.
 
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Old May 30, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Speed really kills mileage when towing, especially if you have a trailer with a lot of frontage. Usually drag from the trailer frontage is more important than the weight, up to a point of course.

I am a bit surprised you get as low as that with a horse trailer. I don't know the diesles, but my gasser 460 gets about 8mpg to maybe 9mpg or so while towing a 8000# trailer usually at 65-70. I would have expected/hoped a diesel gets in the low to mid teens towing my trailer, so I would think a horse trailer would be better.

Just my opinion,

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Old May 30, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Another thing, you mentioned that was what the console showed. If you are referring to the overhead electronic information console, that has been known to be inaccurate to say the least. Best way is to do the math manually to get an accurate figure.
 
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Originally Posted by jim henderson
Speed really kills mileage when towing, especially if you have a trailer with a lot of frontage. Usually drag from the trailer frontage is more important than the weight, up to a point of course.

I am a bit surprised you get as low as that with a horse trailer. I don't know the diesles, but my gasser 460 gets about 8mpg to maybe 9mpg or so while towing a 8000# trailer usually at 65-70. I would have expected/hoped a diesel gets in the low to mid teens towing my trailer, so I would think a horse trailer would be better.

Just my opinion,

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My thoughts exactly. I figured better mileage too...but NOPE. And yes..the trailer has an almost flat front and about 10ft tall. So kind of like a parachute! UGH!
 
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Originally Posted by PHWLEE
Another thing, you mentioned that was what the console showed. If you are referring to the overhead electronic information console, that has been known to be inaccurate to say the least. Best way is to do the math manually to get an accurate figure.
Yea I thought of that too so for 2 tanks I tracked the mileage and the gallons...the math equaled what the console showed.
 
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Old May 30, 2007 | 02:40 PM
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With a 7.3L mph kills when pulling. drop you speed to 65mph and you will likely gte 14 or 15, drop the speed to 60mph and you will likely get 16 or 17.

Remember vehicles are meant to work most efficiently at 55mph.
 
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Originally Posted by ffadragon
With a 7.3L mph kills when pulling. drop you speed to 65mph and you will likely gte 14 or 15, drop the speed to 60mph and you will likely get 16 or 17.

Remember vehicles are meant to work most efficiently at 55mph.
I will rememeber that...and I guess I will have to live with getting passed by everyone if I want decent mileage. Damn...no more grinning from ear to ear while passing everyone going uphill with a big trailer. WAAAAA!!!!! I WANT IT ALL!!!!!

Thanks guys!
 
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haven't notice muh better with reduced speed mine gets 10 towing at 90 70 or 60
 
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Old May 30, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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I haven't towed with my new 6.0 yet but based on my highway mileage so far I can see that speed is going to be more critical to fuel mileage than with my 97.

I didn't often keep calculating exact mileage but..............................
I couldn't tell much of a difference if any with my 97psd from 55mph to 70mph towing or not. But I suspect that when I start towing with this new 07psd that it will be more sensetive to throttle input. Too bad for me because I like to plant the pedal in the carpet and blow by everbody on the mountain pass and my 97 did that real nice all loaded down with fire wood and towing my trailer.
 

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Old May 30, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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A month ago I towed a tandem axle with a reciever hitch...probably @6100 lbs. On the interstate I was cruising at 75 MPH and I noticed the mpg drop from 14.9 to 14.6....needless to say I was pretty impressed! This is an 03 crew cab with the 6.0 automatic with 3.73 gears and stock tires. The load was above the height of the cab so I had a pretty good air dam pushing into the wind.

IMO, you need to have someone look at your truck....that low mpg doesn't sound right considering what you get when you don't tow.
 
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Old May 30, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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My personal experience with pulling a trailer is this. pulling a 8000lbs camper, bigger than our horse trailer, I got 9 mpg going 80+. Slowed down to 70 and got over 11. Our gooseneck 3 horse slant will pull down to at least 10 but like you said I don't slow down usually going 5 over on the turnpike.
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Speed, or more accurately cruising rpm's is the key to your mileage, towing or not. Cruise these trucks at 2K rpm's or below and you will get the best mileage. As someone stated earlier once you get above 55 mph your mpg is going to start dropping. I tow an 11K trailer and usually average about 11.5 at 65-70. I know if I backed her down to 55 I would see low teens. Still beats my old 460 gasser that got 10 mpg empty and 7 mpg towing.
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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Frontal area is what kills your MPG at speed.

I've run into situations where I actually got better mileage loaded vs. unloaded (towing a 28 foot enclosed car hauler) because I had to deadhead into a real stiff headwind (25 MPH gusting to 40)for a few hundred miles.
 
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