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Old May 26, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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HELP It won't start

I have an 06 6.0L SD with a 6 speed manual tranny and Compustar alarm..

Everything was fine yesterday.. Drove it, parked it, set the remote start and now it will not turn over..

To set the remote start all I have to do is depress the ebrake and put the tranny in neutral.. Then the truck shuts off after the doors are closed..

The alarm is disabling when I press the remote..

Everything works when the key is turned on. (Radio, Fan, and lights)

It is almost like the Clutch interlock is not working..

I briefly looked under the dash, but could not see the interlock switch..

How can I test the clutch interlock? and where is it located?

I will be working on it toworrow..

If I can't get it running I guess the only other option is to wait till Tuesday when the dealer opens and have it towed in...

Thanks for any help..
 
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Old May 26, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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If the clutch switch is like the older models, it will be near the top of the clutch pedal arm. The older ones had two wires on the connector. You could unplug the connector and put a jumper wire across the two ends to short it, which is what happens when you depress the clutch pedal.
 
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Old May 26, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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www.superchips.com,

I am betting you are having a problem with the alarm. You could have a bad relay or fuse that is not letting the engine kill ciruit disarm when you disarm the alarm system.

Admin had this problem on his 6.0 PSD last week and it turned out to be a bad relay in the alarm system. Changed relay truck started perfectly.

If you have a wiring diagram of the alarm system start tracking the relays and fuses.

Good luck
 
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Old May 26, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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Are you SURE your alarm is disarming? If so, then I would have to say that its the starter disable relay on the alarm, that is not allowing the starter to engage. Try putting your alarm in Valet Mode and see if that will fix it. Good Luck
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Old May 26, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by blackhat620
www.superchips.com,

I am betting you are having a problem with the alarm. You could have a bad relay or fuse that is not letting the engine kill ciruit disarm when you disarm the alarm system.

Admin had this problem on his 6.0 PSD last week and it turned out to be a bad relay in the alarm system. Changed relay truck started perfectly.

If you have a wiring diagram of the alarm system start tracking the relays and fuses.

Good luck
I do not have any diagrams of the alarm wiring so I guess The first call is going to be the alarm guys.
 
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Old May 26, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 96f150
Are you SURE your alarm is disarming? If so, then I would have to say that its the starter disable relay on the alarm, that is not allowing the starter to engage. Try putting your alarm in Valet Mode and see if that will fix it. Good Luck
Rich
Well it doesn't go off when I open the doors and it beeps when I disable it or enable the alarm.. Could be a relay, but not sure...

I thought of trying valet mode and that is the first thing I am going to try in the morning..hopefully that will work..
 
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Old May 26, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by F250tuff
If the clutch switch is like the older models, it will be near the top of the clutch pedal arm. The older ones had two wires on the connector. You could unplug the connector and put a jumper wire across the two ends to short it, which is what happens when you depress the clutch pedal.
That is what I was thinking of doing but when I looked under there I couldn't see any switch on the pedal, but I didn't have my work clothes on to really get under there..
 
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Old May 27, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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UPDATE:::

Went out to see if I could get it running.. Still nothing.

Tried Valet Mode....No Change.

Tried disconnecting Batteries..... No Change.

Tried looking for Clutch switch......Can't find it..

Tried checking fuses.......All look good..

I guess It is dead until Tuesday..


HEELLLPPPP!!!!!
 
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Old May 27, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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I think I located the interlock switch.. Had to remove the fuse panel to access it.


It has 4 wires that I tried jumping out, but it still does not work.

I jumpered the first two then the next two..

Does anyone have a wiring diagram for that switch????
 
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Old May 27, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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Look up by the ignition switch wiring and you will probably find some of the alarm wiring. Most of the wires should be tapped in, but the starter interrupt would have the factory starter wire cut in half and both wires run to either a relay or the alarm brain. If you find the wiring like this, try jumping the factory wire back together and it will probably start.
 
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Old May 27, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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I would try jumping out clutch switch, if that doesn't work check to make sure the ignition wires are properly connected to alarm module. If they are follow the ignition wires to the module from column and jump out.
 
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Old May 27, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wiingnut
I would try jumping out clutch switch, if that doesn't work check to make sure the ignition wires are properly connected to alarm module. If they are follow the ignition wires to the module from column and jump out.
I tried it but it did not work..I don't want to blow out the alarm module so I think I am going to let it be until tuesday when they open..

Thanks for all the replies...
 
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Old May 29, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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Update

Here is an update on the no start......


Called the alarm guys... The came over and replaced one of the relays and all is well....

Took him about 15 minutes and it fired right up WOO HOO....


Thanks for all your help everyone...
 
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Old May 29, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by donjamer
Here is an update on the no start......


Called the alarm guys... The came over and replaced one of the relays and all is well....

Took him about 15 minutes and it fired right up WOO HOO....


Thanks for all your help everyone...
That was the exact same problem that Tim (Admin) had with is about a week ago. I am not getting a feeling of confidence with the relays that some of the alarm companies are using.

What make and model is your alarm?
 

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Originally Posted by blackhat620
That was the exact same problem that Tim (Admin) had with is about a week ago. I am not getting a feeling of confidence with the relays that some of the alarm companies are using.

What make and model is your alarm?
I have a Compustar alarm.. The guy said they have had a problem with those relays.. That is why he brought one with him...

Note: these relays are external to the Alarm module.. Probably made by some other manufacturuer than Compustar..
 
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