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Old May 22, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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I have a 78 f150 351M non-catalyst. I have a 78 bronco catalyst. Both have motorcraft carbs, but the bronco has a link rod going from the vac. adv. hose to the front of the carb. the f150 doesn't. what actuates the rod, and if it's faulty, what effect would it have on timing advance? The bronco starts, but hit the gas and it pops through the carb and dies. restarts just fine, only to do the same thing again. Looking for a quick fix, as it's only to get the bronco moved around the yard.

PS: the dist. itself is stuck retarded to aid in torque/plowing snow.

Plan on testing the ign. module, buying plugs, cap, rotor, this weekend.
 

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Old May 23, 2007 | 12:11 AM
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Pictures of the roast duck, er carb etc. I can't really figure out what you are talking about.
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 01:26 AM
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The choke pulldown rod?

Are we talking about the vacuum advance pickup from the distributor?
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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from the distributor, yes. Mounted on front of carb. After work I'll take pics. It was too dark last night.
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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The choke pull off has a vacuum connector at the front, at the rear it has a slotted arm where a rod attaches with an E clip.

Non California, right?

D8AZ-9S514-D .. Control, Vacuum Break [Choke Pull-off] (Motorcraft CK-2057)
 

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Old May 23, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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the first one is my 78 f150. the second one is the 78 bronco in question. But, I think I answered my own question when I noticed the vac adv. hose was mounted at the p side base of carb, lol. It ran a little better, and i was able to move it.
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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Jesus, don't tell me that is the original Motorcraft Duraspark spark plug wires in the '78 F150!!

Now I understand what you're trying to get.

The FRONT BOTTOM RIGHT vacuum port is the Electric vacuum port. I think it is supposed to go to the vacuum advance on most applications. On mine, it has to go through the PVS on the water neck then to the vacuum advance.
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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Where did you find those trucks? At the bottom of lake Superior???

That bump on the top of the carb which is machined in one carb and not used on the other is part of the fuel bowl vent system. The hose on the lower picture goes to the vapor recovery system. The vent plug is actuated by the throttle lever. Move the throttle to see what it does.

The system has nothing to do with timing, just emissions.
 
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Where did you find those trucks? At the bottom of lake Superior???
lol, you'd think so.

My dad bought the f150 new, but the engine came from my uncle's 78 f150. which has something like 60,000 miles on it. Coincidence, perhaps, but moving the vac hose(other end to dist.) in the lower pic from above the carb to the pass. side port seemed to help. It was then I noticed the rod had nothing to do with it. PO's for ya, bought the bronco for the plow.

PS: and yes, those are the original plug wires, IIRC.
 

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There is lots of carb info and pictures here:
http://home.earthlink.net/~bubbaf250/
 
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lol, you'd think so.

My dad bought the f150 new, but the engine came from my uncle's 78 f150. which has something like 60,000 miles on it. Coincidence, perhaps, but moving the vac hose(other end to dist.) in the lower pic from above the carb to the pass. side port seemed to help. It was then I noticed the rod had nothing to do with it. PO's for ya, bought the bronco for the plow.

PS: and yes, those are the original plug wires, IIRC.
Hey... dont worry about these haters... you're just making sure your restoration is ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL original hehehehe
 
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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first off wanna say hey to all...new guy here , been checking out site for couple weeks and this is my virgin post.....anyone know where to find vacuum diagram for 79 bronco ? it has 351m but was missing breather and none of the vacuum advance appears to be hooked up...having problems with carb and prefer to eliminate vacuum problem first. any help would be appreciated
 
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