Well there is always the possibility you damaged the sensor/connector or wiring when you installed the new intake.

 

Everything I've read says that the air entering the intake may be too cold or beyond the ability of the sensor to correctly evaluate so it sets a P0113 and cel. How do other A/M intakes that are completely open to the air in the engine compartment cope with this problem?

 

Sorry I'm late................. Take the aftermarket crap off and viola, the cel and code will go away. Not to mention never having to worry about sandblasting your turbo wheel/housing. A point worth mentioning, if a stock air filter can go 80K (yeah I didn't believe it either) before yeilding enough differential to throw a code or move the filter minder. Change it a little sooner, and 500 Hp won't even be a concern. This has been discussed here way more than is imaginably possible. In the end, what Blackhat is telling you is the honest to Gods truth. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

Here is the data from the 6.0L Engine Bible

"IAT1 (Intake Air Temperature #1)

• The Intake Air Temperature1 (IAT1) sensor is a two wire thermistor sensor that is located inside the Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor
• The PCM supplies a 5 volt reference signal which the IAT1 uses to produce an analog voltage that indicates the intake air temperature.
• The IAT1 sensor’s primary function is to measure intake air temperature to control the timing and fuel rate when cold starting. The continuous monitoring by the IAT1 sensor limits smoke emissions.
• The MAF/IAT1 sensor is mounted in the intake air piping after the air filter.


IAT2 (Intake Air Temperature #2)

• The primary function of the IAT2 sensor is to provide a feedback signal to the PCM indicating manifold air temperature.
• The PCM supplies a 5 volt reference signal which the IAT2 sensor uses to produce an analog voltage that indicates temperature.
• The PCM monitors the IAT2 signal to determine if the temperature is
satisfactory.
• During engine operation, if the PCM recognizes that the IAT2 signal is lower or higher than the expected value it will set a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) and illuminate the amber malfunction indicator lamp on the dash.
• The IAT2 sensor is a two (2) wire thermistor type sensor.
• The IAT2 sensor changes resistance when exposed to different air temperature.
• When temperature decreases, the resistance of the thermistor increases. This causes the signal voltage to increase.
• When the temperature increases, the resistance of the thermistor decreases. This causes the signal voltage to decrease."

It appears the two sensors readings are to far apart from what the computer is expecting to see, this is causing the CEL and code P0113. This is going to effect the engine timing and fueling parameters.

Check to make sure there are no broken or disconnected wires or that one of the wires is not shorted to power. If all of these check out okay, then the problem is do to the fact that the temprature differential between IAT #1 & #2 is beyond the expected parameters of the engine.
The second scenario is directly related to the A/M intake, and the only way to correct this and leave the A/M intake installed is to get a Custom tuner (SCT XcalII with custom tunes) and have the program parameters of the IAT differential changed.

If the PCM is seeing to high of a voltage reading from one of the IAT sensors it is going to alter the timing and fueling strategies of the engine to compensate for this. This could result in decreased power and performance.

As far as open air boxes and the 6.0 PSD, at least on FTE very few people run A/M intakes and fewer still the open style.

 

Thanks blackhat620 for the info. I'm the kind of person that doesn't give up on a project just because someone says it's not good or it will never work. At some point before it becomes necessary to bang my head against a wall I will say "UNCLE". I'll talk to S & B tomorrow to see what explanation they have to offer.
Thanks also to mrxlh and I will seriously take your suggestion under consideration.

 

Hello everyone, I have been reading up but never posted before. I am reading this info and am about to get the works for my truck. So what everyone is saying is I dont need an aftermarket air intake. I'm getting a Diablo tuner and MBRP exhaust? The stock filter looks very, very restrictive. This is my first diesel (F-350 King Ranch, 6.0 PS). Help please.

 

Welcome to FTE lots of good people and info around here.

Well if you have read all the threads on A/M air intakes then you already know the answer is they are not needed until you reach 500+ Hp (this takes more than a tuner). The factory OEM filters flow more air than the stock or mildly modified 6.0 can use.

If you read the posts on tuners & chips, you will find that the Diablo tuner is iffy for the 6.0 and your best bet is the SCT XcalII with custom tunes form either Matt at LIPD or Eric at Innovative.

So you may want to re-think your tuner choice.

To answer your question directly, use Stock OEM intake, MBRP exhaust and preferrably SCT XcalII with custom tunes.

Good luck

 

coozeem welcome & please post all youre questions as you will get no better or more honest info anywhere, dont be fooled by your eyes as it may look restrictive, however it is anything but & will out flow most air cleaners with out a loss oo efficency & will hold up to 3 lbs of dirt, dust, bugs & cigarette butts, yes I have found them in there with 22 bees (Zoodad Mod works lol). listen to Blackhat & MRXLH as they both know their s^&* & have no agenda other than helping you get the most fun & dependability you can!

 

OK....I do remember seeing the SCT Xcal mentioned alot. I looked into it and I found two sites that sell it. The one is where I am about to order my MBRP exhaust from (XTREME Diesel Performance) w/ free shipping.....I'm in Alaska. It also comes w/ 3 tunes. So I'm going to need a really good reason to purchase the same product from this other guy for $70.00 more not including shipping. I respect everyone’s opinion since I'm a total newb to all this diesel stuff but what is the difference? I don’t tow 20,XXX+ lbs every weekend but do plan on getting a travel trailer (26' - 32') at some point. I do have a little trailer with two quads....total weight about 3000 lbs. I just want mainly economy and MAYBE.....MAYBE a little performance!

 

There is more to a product than just price. If you look at LIPD (www.lidiesel.com) you get custom tunes specifically written for your truck, load and driving style. The price includes all tuning updates for as long as you own the SCT XcalII.

The tuner you are purchasing from extreme diesel or any off the shelf SCT XcalII dealer only comes with the SCT one size fits all canned tunes. These are a compremise at best, just like the OEM tune from Ford. The important part is to get the SCT XcalII with "custom tunes" written specifically for your truck and driving style. This will not only optimize performance of your engine but your transmission as well.

If you buy an off the shelf tuner from Xtreme diesel or anyone else, you will then have to pay a custom tuner to write custom tunes for your truck if you want tunes tailored just for your needs.

By going with the canned SCT tunes you are giving up one of the biggest benefits of the SCT XcalII and that is the custom tunes.

Call Matt at LIPD or Eric and Innovative and talk to them. Then order your SCT XcalII from one of the two of them with custom tunes written specifically for your truck.

www.lidiesel.com
http://ophion.site5.com/~dieselta/store/

The $70 you save running canned SCT tunes will not come close to the damage you may potentially run into by not running custom tunes written specifically for your truck, load and driving style.

Hope this helps

 

LIPD also sells MBRP exhaust kits, so you could buy both of them there too.

 

Both of them NEVER pick up the phone! Ill keep trying. First one back to me will get my sale.

 

Sorry Beerstalker...didnt see your post. I ordered the exhaust from Thoroughbred. I got the MBRP 3.5' to 4' SS T-304 single. It was the best deal I could find. $680 w/ free shipping. Others wanted around $750. About the SCT Xcal....Innovative got back to me and thats who I went with. Spanks for all the help....Ill keep postin.