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Old May 22, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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If you are shopping around to do your complete exhaust, we're Motorhaven and one of the forum sponsors and carry the makes...

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Old May 22, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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thanks toughbuilt ford

I am a napa salesman in my town. i am also a trailgear dealer as well, i will check you prices, do you do alot of wholesale, or just over the counter sales??
 
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Old May 22, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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We do a lot of wholesale and a lot of online sales. PM me if you would like contact information for our Wholesale Manager. He's been with us for a long time and has great vendor relationships.
 
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Old May 22, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Shafe76
The new-to-me X ('00 4x4 LTD w/V10) that I have says I'm getting about 12.5 around town and 15 on the highway. How does this compare with your mileage? I'm wondering what my gearing is also? I think I read somwhere that unless specifically ordered, the standard gearing for my particular X is 3.73. Does anyone know if this is correct? (Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread Jackrista)...
Here is information on Ford rear ends. You should be able to determine what you have from this.

http://www.drivetrain.com/Fordtrkratio_posidata.html
 

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Old May 22, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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I have a Volant intake coming for my V10 Ex. Delivered was $249... best deal I could find. Right after I get it, I'm taking the Ex on a trip from Birmingham to Miami and back. I'm also going to try the 1.5 ounces of acetone per 10 gallons of gas on one of the legs of the trip to see how it does... supposed to increase mileage a little.
 
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Old May 22, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Thanks for the weblink ExcursionDad. I'll be checking the numbers on my X when I get home this evening...
 
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Old May 22, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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where did you here about the acetone trick from, F250??? is it cheaper than octane booster?? have yet to here of that one. let know if it works.
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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does anybody like to headers on these v-10's????
 
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Old May 24, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Guys:

I believe that I'm going to send back my Volant system without even opening it up. There is an ever-hopeful part of me that wants to install it and try it out, but I keep hearing from lots of experienced FTE'ers in here that the performance curve is nearly flat on this V10, and I won't see the advertised bennies from hardly anything (intake, headers, exhaust, tuners, etc.). I really am wishing I had pushed the point with my wife and gotten the Ex with a 7.3 in it like my truck.

Anyway, jackrista, I read about the acetone here in one of the FTe threads a short while back. The reports are that it works, but that each engine has it's own optimum point of success somewhere between 1 and 2 ounces per 10 gallons of gas. It's pretty cheap stuff (less than $6/gallon at Home Depot).
 
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Old May 25, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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what is the best thing, or combo of items to get the best performance and milage out of a 00 x 4x4 stock??? how can i found out what gears i have without pulling the rear end. I see here a oasis report, what is that???
Here is my opinion and my opinion only...

The single best bang for the buck for performance on a V10 Ex is putting 4.30's behind her. The power band of the V10 is TAILOR made for the rpm range the 4.30's puts you in.

Shifts just around town run thru 1-3 BEFORE you are at 30 when just putting...

Mileage unloaded on the highway (something I do NOT do)...will suffer due to the higher RPM's...

BUT towing (something I DO)...the MPG's should actually go UP due to less frequent downshifts out of OD...YES read your manual...you CAN tow with OD on...just that as pointed out previously...if she is hunting or constantly downshifting...lock out OD and this thing will pull darn near any hill in 3rd with the 4.30's...

Now on the 3.73's...someone earlier asked about 3.73's towing 6000#'s. Well I happen to tow our 7500# TT near 7000 miles last year with the 3.73's. I towed thru all kinds of terrain (Black Hills, Big Horns, Rockies) and all kinds of weather (strong head and cross winds)...the 3.73's with OD OFF will pull STRONG. I ONLY upgraded this past year to 4.30's as I upgraded my TT to a 9000# 34' monster...I wanted a better match...

I like the overall feel and response of the 4.30's over the 3.73's...it is really my opinion that the 3.73's is a BAD match to the V10 power band...but if you have them and are pulling UNDER 7500#'s...I was VERY happy with the towing...just need to work them "properly".

For those interested...here is a post I put together on Open roads Forum after my 4200 mile trip last year with the Ex

http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/18127992/gotomsg/18169491.cfm#18169491

As you read it...don't cringe too much on the 5000 RPM's...it is NECESSARY to do in order to be able to maintain speed if you "lose" the momentum on STEEP HIGH GRADES...the 4R100 (our 4 speed tranny)...has a horrible spacing between first and second...the power band has a "plateau" from ~1900-2500...the 3.73's just can't peddle fast enough and you start to slide backwards losing speed...I played extensively on the long steep 8000+ foot mountain passes to hit on this strategy...it does work.

But to answer the OP's question...for me IMO the 4.30 upgrade is the single best bang for the buck on the V10 performance wise. MPG wise...well towing wise...they mpg's will be slightly better...unloaded on the highway...that's something I don't do so I wasn't concerned...but unloaded around town with the 4.30's I have seen 1mpg BETTER with the 4.30's...I think because it shifts so quickly and doesn't "hang" to shift...the overall RPM's are actually lower on a given local trip...but that is just my experience.

Good luck!
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Old May 25, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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The best way I have found to make the V10 mileage better is to drive the Cobra! Just kidding!

Modifying your driving technique is the easiest...and cheapest. I let the big monster coast as much as possible. I get off the gas as soon as I see a light turn red. Stop and go is the killer here.

Two friends have 5.4 SDs, and their mileage is not much different from mine, so I don't feel too bad. My thinking is that if Ford had a way to get substantially more MPG from these...they would have.
 
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Old May 26, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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Guys:

I believe that I'm going to send back my Volant system without even opening it up. There is an ever-hopeful part of me that wants to install it and try it out, but I keep hearing from lots of experienced FTE'ers in here that the performance curve is nearly flat on this V10, and I won't see the advertised bennies from hardly anything (intake, headers, exhaust, tuners, etc.). I really am wishing I had pushed the point with my wife and gotten the Ex with a 7.3 in it like my truck.

Anyway, jackrista, I read about the acetone here in one of the FTe threads a short while back. The reports are that it works, but that each engine has it's own optimum point of success somewhere between 1 and 2 ounces per 10 gallons of gas. It's pretty cheap stuff (less than $6/gallon at Home Depot).


dont send it back put it on and see the difference first if there is none, then sell it off or if bought from a repitable company the should let you return it if you still have all the original pakaging, for a refund, if you tell them that it does not perform up to what it says. i am very interested to know if it will make a good differance or not, one thing is if it can inhale better it needs to exhale better, have you done any exhaust mods yet?? if you sell it let me know.

the lucas octane booster i know works good on long trips in my old car from my house to frisco it increase the milage by 3-4 mpg. have yet to try anything on the X yet. i am going to put in the BG 44K fuel cleaner in first since i do not if if the previous owner has treated the fuel system.
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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seen on ebay a guy make a new Y-pipe for the modular engines it is supossed to help breathe better, i look at the one on my X and it is ridiculas looking, the new y-pipe is a lot big and better flowing than stock has anyone done this to there truck yet????
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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seen on ebay a guy make a new Y-pipe for the modular engines it is supossed to help breathe better, i look at the one on my X and it is ridiculas looking, the new y-pipe is a lot big and better flowing than stock has anyone done this to there truck yet????
 
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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well after doing alot of reading and watching on this site, it looks like dont spend you money with banks unless they are willing to prove it helps, the guy on e bay selling y-pipes sounded good at first but after hearing what was said on hear its a nogo. as for programmers that is still up in the air, they all sound decent put will it do what you want it to. i have not read anything on throttle body spacers anywhere in here, so i dont know if anyone has tried them. the best thing to do for performace it seems like to this board is the 4.30 or lower gear swap. and for handling the helwig swaybar, and then the spring swap with the f-series trucks. if anyone has anything else to say please chime in. i want to upgrade the x, just want the best bang for the buck.
 
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