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Old May 18, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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id like some feedback, whats better chip or programmer, and if you install a chip can you later use a progammer with it.

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Old May 18, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Myself as well as most everyone here prefers DP-Tuner. You can buy either a programmer or a chip from them. www.dp-tuner.com

Advantages to having a chip:
- Shift on the fly power settings
- The ability to have a no-start setting for theft protection
- With DP-Tuner you can have up to 16 different settings
Disadvantages to a chip:
- No ability to read trouble codes
- You have to find a place to mount the switch

Advantages to a programmer:
- The ability to read trouble codes
- Can hide it out of the way when not in use
Disadvantages to a programmer:
- Takes several minutes to switch tunes
- Less tunes available to be downloaded

Hope this helps. You really can't go wrong when talking to Jody or Diane at DP-Tuner.
 
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Old May 18, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by COWBOYCADDILAC
id like some feedback, whats better chip or programmer, and if you install a chip can you later use a progammer with it.

thanks
What engine are we talking about, it makes a difference.
 
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Old May 18, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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I am not most everyone so I can give you some other options. Firstly hard chips are obsolete on OBD2 computers (all made on or after 1996) The prom in the OBD2 compliant computers are reflashable and the flash tuners allow you to make changes. Very few hard chips are eraseable and usually have to be removed to reprogram.

I love my sniper's special forces, it's a tune that the end user gets a lot of leeway in customizing. I also like superchips for a less intricate tuner, edge also makes a good product.
 
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Old May 19, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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You cannot use a chip and a programmer at the same time, when I first bought my last truck (97 F250 7.3 powerstroke) I wasn't aware it had a chip. I bought the superchip power programmer, when to install it and it wouldn't accept it, after I dug into the truck, I found it had the chip on it! Took that out, and installed the programmer and I noticed a HUUGE difference, the programmer was by far better! This is for the diesel, not sure how it would apply to a gas engine, but my guess is you can't have both installed. Chips don't change the proper things though, programmers/tuners are the way to go, and you can go back to stock whenever you want.
 
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Old May 19, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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I LOVE my SCT xCal2. If you plan on major mods later, such as bigger injectors and aftermarket turbo, go with a flash programmer that can be custom programmed. I have Stage II Injectors and am ordering a Stage III Turbo so I'll have my program rewritten to account for these.
 
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Old May 19, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Well, I'm a big fan of the DP chips. What a difference in power!

I've found no downside either!!!

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Old May 23, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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hey sorry i did not get back sonner its a 7.3L
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by COWBOYCADDILAC
hey sorry i did not get back sonner its a 7.3L
The "tuner" of choice for the 7.3 is Dp-tuner, they are FTE sponsors. Get a tuner (ie SCT XcalII) instead of a chip as they are much easier to customize to your truck and driving style.

Hope this helps
 
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thanks ive been checking out their web
 
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Old May 23, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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COWBOYCADDILAC,

Also if you cruise down to the 7.3 section of the forum there is alot of information on this very topic.
 
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Depends on what you want, I wanted a bit more performance, keep it safe and not rip anything apart until I am ready to Wife drives the Ex 90% of the time, and we tow the Toyhauler, so I wanted gains with out major issues, I have a Hypertech 3 stage programmer. Have installed and used the Edge for friends, and the Superchips on my broth-in-laws dodge, have to say I like the "removability" of my programmer when it has to go to the dealer, luckily, Silva Ford seems "mod Friendly" so far,,,
If you are ready for all out ripsnortinblacksmokedumpinkickthecrapoutoftheimpor tsfun all kinds of stuff is out there, just depends on how ya use it and what you want.
 
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