well im ready to go buy gauges but im lost how do i put the boost gauge in do i have to take the turbo off or what? cuz of metal shavings
and the pyro gauge can i drill in to the manifold if i have room or can i put it in the y pipe or what??? cuz i just need more power lol thanks

 

Sooner or later, we all want -I mean -need mow power LOL.

I aquired a used ATS 088 turbo kit a little while ago, and I think the intake that connects the turbo to the engine intake manifold are similar between your system and mine.

The sender for the boost gauge was tapped into the turbo manifold right next to the turbo inlet. I would remove the turbo intake and do the work on a bench where shavings can't get in the engine, and you will also have an easier time installing the fitting.

The turbo manifold is removeable on my setup without disturbing the turbo, yours should be the same, but it can be stubborn. You will have to remove the airbox, and then you will see the round inlet bolted on the engine intake. Once you remove the single bolt that holds it down, you can swing it up, and it should come off with some wiggling.

The layout of your system should be very similar to this:

http://www.atsdiesel.com/PDF/7.3-WG-...yout-sm-A1.pdf

For the ETG sender, its usually best to put it as close to the engine as possible (most accutare reading), some place it at the exhaust manifold, and its intirely up to you. OMHO, anywhere from the crossover pipe to the Y pipe should be good enough, I would just put it somewhere thats easy to reach.

Have fun cranking up the fuel, I did .

 

is there a big differnce??! after runnin 10-12 psi and more fuel??

 

Well, in my case there was, since the my 6.9 was N/A when I got it, no good .

Right now, the boost is maxing out around 10 psi, the EGTs around 950-1050F, which is as far as I want to go since I think my engine is original, and with that many miles racked up already, I'll take what I've got. Even as it is, I can get to 60mph in less than 15 seconds @ 6 psi of boost (I say less because the tires kicked loose on me) The 6.9's weak point are the head gaskets, but the 7.3 can take some more abuse with it's slightly larger bolts.

The general rule is to let the EGTs and tailpipe smoke be your guide. The alloy that the pistons are made of can start to melt above 1250F, so the more fuel you force into the engine, the closer you will get to that. Black smoke (unless ther is an underlying problem) indicates that more fuel is going through the engine than can be burned (not enough air), and this causes the EGTs to rise. If right now, you find yourself in a situation where with the pedal pressed to the floor and no smoke is produced once RPMs and boost rises, than chances are that you can turn up the fuel. BUT, if the EGTs rise to a dangerous level, bad things can happen, which is why a pyro is critical, so you know when to back off. Even a stock N/A diesel is capable of running very hot.

The setup in your truck (if I read your sig correctly) should be able to produce around 15 psi, so I think you will notice a difference, but I would get the gauges in before hand just in case.

Have you adjusted the wastegate yet? Mine doesn't have one, but yours does, and will have to be 'tweaked' to allow the extra potential boost to get back to the engine.

 

well i havent touched the boost yet i guess supposealy when i got the new motor the people who built the motor turned up the fuel 1 flat now if i floor it off the line i get black for a second till everything starts moving then its a haze of smoke and i dont feel no real turbo lag ?? soo im prolly not even runnin even clolse to what that motor can handle i guesss i mean right now its kinda turdy but i think its about 10-12 seconds 0-60 i would guesss right now if you ask me it feels just like my 98 ram 1500 5.9 4x4

 

If the wastegate was not adjusted to take up the extra fuel (and corresponding exhust gas) than that could explain the smoke your seeing. If there is light smoke at full throttle, than you are close to the limit of what the engine can do for the amount of air giong into it. Increacing the fuel under those conditions will result in little extra power, and more black smoke.

Once you have a boost gauge in, you'll know for sure where the boost is.

0-60 in 10 seconds is pretty darn good for a truck as big and heavy as yours.

As for turbo lag, mine is non wastegated, which is the worst configuration for lag, but I never noticed it, and I've got 3.08 gears. Makes me wonder what difference all the fancy "quick spool" setups really make .

 

well i wil presume and buy gauges and let ya know what i come up with ina couple weeks

 

Hey Mudding, My 94 factory turbo had a 1/8" NPT plug in the air chamber right beside the hold down bolt. I just bought a 1/8" NPT to 1/4" hose adapter and was set for my boost guage.

 

hah my god your right thers a bolt type deal right next to the bolt that holds it on.... but i bought the vacuum gauge kinda that tee's into the waste gate hose.. is that just as good or do i need to do the one on the intake or will the t into the rubber hose from the waste gate will work?! i bought autometer gauges 150$ for boost and pyro soo monday i should have them and lol i cant wait to put them on

 

Hey, he is right, I just looked at Dave Sponaugle's gallery, and one picture shows the sender for the boost gauge. Good call gumboluvr.

Looks like a real easy hookup, and seems to be accessable without pulling the airbox.

If you want to splice into the wastegate line, I can't think of any problem with that either, but personally, I would go directly to the air chamber.

 

I don't see why you couldn't Tee in there, I wish I had thought of that.My boost guage came with all that I needed to do it that way. What guages did you get? I just put in a 3 guage pillar mount, Boost, Pyro, and Vacum. All Autometer Phantom. They look great.

You got a real good deal, my pyro was $135

 

yeh i wanna buy the pod thing but i think im going to go with a trans temp sence im gettin my tranny done here soon lol to be honest i really have no idea what type gauges i just know autometer makes them i was just loookin for he cheapest thing on ebay with buy it now haha

 

My concern is that you are only getting the pyro guage and not the probe. Most all the pyros on Summit's website are over 100 bucks with the probe. I hope you get what you need

 

it comes with probe and everything ya need too hook it up i made sure of it

 

now no one told me yet can i drill into the y pipe that goes into the turbo or should i drill right into the exhaust manifolt on the driver side cuz that 1 is easy to get too?