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Old May 14, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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Air Pump ? How important is it ?

I have a 79 bronco with 351M. I just put in a new crate motor. I am still hooking everything up. I have not hooked up the air pump yet. Thats just an emissions thing right ? This is a non-emissions truck(historic tags) I don't plan on driving it much. Just a wheeling truck.

Do I need to hook up the air pump ? I see where it hooks up to the manifold and theres a vacuum valve inbetween the pump and manifold but I am not sure anything else was hooked up when I bought the truck.
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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You can leave it off with no cats. AFAIK the pump was used to make the cats fire up earlier and to provide additional air for combustion in the converter.
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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just to be clear on my 351M the air pump is on the passenger side of the motor under the alt, and has a hose that runs up to the manifold ?
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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That's odd. My '82 California E350 w/ 400 has an underhood sticker specifically listing AIR as a required component, although no catalytic converters is/are needed. Why would they require the AIR pump if there are no cats? I'd remove the ugly useless thing if i could get it past the smog guys... thanx.
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranger1F150
I have a 79 bronco with 351M. I just put in a new crate motor. I am still hooking everything up. I have not hooked up the air pump yet. Thats just an emissions thing right ? This is a non-emissions truck(historic tags) I don't plan on driving it much. Just a wheeling truck.

Do I need to hook up the air pump ? I see where it hooks up to the manifold and theres a vacuum valve inbetween the pump and manifold but I am not sure anything else was hooked up when I bought the truck.

If you don't have a cat you shouldn't need a pump. No emmisions? No problem. Maybe you can install a nice exhaust on it.
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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I purchased my california 1982 F-350 4x4 with 400 truck brand new, no cats but it does have the air pump also. Reason for purchasing it was exempt from smog. But guess what. California changed the GVW portion of smog laws and now I have to smog every two years. It won't pass the inspection part of the smog check without the air pump.
 
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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Yep, KawleeFornea is strange.... No help for you guys out there in lala land. You have to keep all the crap.
 
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Old May 16, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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As far as I can tell it is not hooked up to the exhaust. The only thing it is hooked up to is the intake manifold. I am not running cats.
 
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Old May 18, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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Air pump but no Cat on my 80

I have a 1980 F350 that has an air pump but no Cat either. This truck was bought (and still lives) in Indiana so the Cali thing does not add up on mine. The air pump is still there but the original owner (I am the second owner) has removed the belt. Should I go ahead and disconnect and plug off any hoses and throw the damn thing away?
 
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Old May 18, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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mrockrdude- Remove it but keep the parts. Plug the port in the intake manifold.

Ranger- The intake manifold port leads directly into a passage to the exhaust ports.
 
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Old May 21, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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Ranger- The intake manifold port leads directly into a passage to the exhaust ports.
Oh ok. When i bought the truck the port in the manifold was open and exhaust was blowing out of it. Would that cause any problems or make the motor run funny ?
 
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Old May 22, 2007 | 02:13 AM
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It would certainly make for a lot of noise. Kind of a giant exhaust leak but of course there are a lot of twists and turns in that passage that would muffle it a little.
 
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Old May 22, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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Oh ok. When i bought the truck the port in the manifold was open and exhaust was blowing out of it. Would that cause any problems or make the motor run funny ?
On a late 1970's 351M/400 this is the only place where where the T/E (smog) system routes into the engine. Originally there would have been a check valve in the intake manifold with a hose from it leading to the air by pass valve. This valve attached to a separate bracket and was located above the alternator. Another hose attached to the valve and went to a nipple on the back of the smog pump. That's the total system, nothing else. You will need to find a plug for the hole in the intake manifold. Leaving that port open will not help the engine.
 
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Old May 22, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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on my stock manifold I plugged the hole with gasket maker RTV it seem to run a little better. I am currently in process of swapping the entire engine for a brand new crate 351M. I am using a endlebrock manifold and I have a plug for the hole.

Do you think that hole being open could have some how damage the motor and burnt it up ?
 

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Old May 22, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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the airpump helps burn off the unburnt fuel in the texhaust, making the emissions cleaner, cat's or not that's how it works.


fyi, an airpump spins so freely it robs basically NO hp, and besides looking ugly, there is absolutely no reason to remove it.
 
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