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Old May 13, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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do yall know of any manufacturer that makes an aftermarket h-beam or even i-beam rod for a 400? what about an interchangeablity option, like maybe using a big chevy rod or something, makes sense to though, i mean you got a choice of good heads and adaptable manifolds to make some seriouse numbers with but then you still stuck with stock rods, i know tim meyer has some h-beams he sells with that 434 kit but am unsure of the length and such on em, thanks fer the help
 
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Old May 13, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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It's a good question. As an option you can have the stress points on the stock rods machined-ground down and them shotpeened for additional strength. Not sure if thats what your looking for.

High Performance cleveland rods should be readily avaiable and would take bushing? but probably very doable and decent selection?
 
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Old May 13, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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are cleveland rods the same, i thought they were a difference in the length center to center, aint a 400 rod about 6.65 or something like that
 
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Old May 13, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Yea, i think the 351m shares the rod-
 
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Old May 13, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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Check with (TMI) for parts.
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by lucky no. 7
do yall know of any manufacturer that makes an aftermarket h-beam or even i-beam rod for a 400? what about an interchangeablity option, like maybe using a big chevy rod or something, makes sense to though, i mean you got a choice of good heads and adaptable manifolds to make some seriouse numbers with but then you still stuck with stock rods, i know tim meyer has some h-beams he sells with that 434 kit but am unsure of the length and such on em, thanks fer the help
Try TMI or contact one of the many rod companys about their custom rods. Customs will be big coin. I'm running a set of Oliver rods but at $1200, these aren't for a stock rebuild. If anyone has a set of decent priced rods, it would be TMI.
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 12:11 AM
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M/400 rods are 6.58", C rods are 5.78"
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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The stock rods are actually pretty beefy. If you polish, shot peen and use ARP bolts they should be fine for all but the meanest engines.
 
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Old May 14, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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yup. a good set of rod bolts is recommended, installing them will require the rods to be resized.
 
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Old May 19, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Just how strong are the 240 rods (6.79). Are they sufficient for a mild rebuild on a 351M/400? Yea, I know, use a shorter CH on the pistons--! Anyone have any info on them? Also how about the 300's at 6.2". Any good for 351W/C rebuild with proper pistons?
 
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Old May 20, 2007 | 03:14 AM
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well lemme ask you this, how does putting new arp bolts in a rod nessecitate resizing the big end? i already have installed the arp's in my rods and everything measures fine and square with a set of inside micrometers,
 
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Old May 20, 2007 | 05:33 AM
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Installing new bolts always distorts the rods. You may not be able to measure it with your inside micrometers but it is there.

I find it better to clean the rods, inspect them, and then leave them alone if no defects are found.
 
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Old May 20, 2007 | 06:44 AM
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well if it distorts the rod enough to where a mic cant pick it up, pretty much means to me that it aint worth worrying about, i've put the last 5 motors i've built together with arp's and none of them show any sort of unusual bearing wear after a season on the dragstrip turning 8800 or on the street after 30000 miles, so like ya say, its not worth messin with i dont reckon
 
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Old May 20, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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"they" say it has to do with cap alignment, but i have long suspected that it's a machine shop myth designed to bring in more busine$$? then again, maybe that's why they call you "lucky"?
 
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Old May 20, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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240 and 300s have 302 size (2.1232") journal diameters. 351m/400s have 2.311" rod journals. Would need to resize the journals on the crank to match.
The rod length in a 351m/400 is also 6.581" so going to a 300 (6.2") rod would be counter productive.
 

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