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I recently took my Bronco through some deep water and it sucked
in a bunch through the air intake. It stalled and wouldn't turn
over. I pulled the plugs and manually tried to turn the crank with no luck. I'm thinking I need a new engine. I've always wanted to learn how to rebuild one and it seems like I've got my chance. I've never done anything this extensive and am looking for advice and references(how to books) to get me started. Luckely I've have good friends with some experience so I'm not totaly alone.
Any advie or pointers are greatly welcomed.
in a bunch through the air intake. It stalled and wouldn't turn
over. I pulled the plugs and manually tried to turn the crank with no luck. I'm thinking I need a new engine. I've always wanted to learn how to rebuild one and it seems like I've got my chance. I've never done anything this extensive and am looking for advice and references(how to books) to get me started. Luckely I've have good friends with some experience so I'm not totaly alone.
Any advie or pointers are greatly welcomed.
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there are many ford engine rebuilding books in print ....so many to choose from..check your local used book store or library first to save some money;
here is a brief article from the tech article section:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/enginebuild.html
and:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0912656891/thepickuptrucksvA/103-0640390-2298243
jc whitney sells a video on general engine rebuilding..or check out the tv shows such as Crank and Chrome for some hints shown on old shows (they sell videoes too...as well as hot rod and shadetree mechanic..put all the visual info together for better details of what it entails...set-up rentals for engine stands...or kift jacks...pullers..and other tools):
http://www.crankandchrome.com/previous_shows.html
good luck and you'll save big bucks with your buddies help!
here is a brief article from the tech article section:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/enginebuild.html
and:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0912656891/thepickuptrucksvA/103-0640390-2298243
jc whitney sells a video on general engine rebuilding..or check out the tv shows such as Crank and Chrome for some hints shown on old shows (they sell videoes too...as well as hot rod and shadetree mechanic..put all the visual info together for better details of what it entails...set-up rentals for engine stands...or kift jacks...pullers..and other tools):
http://www.crankandchrome.com/previous_shows.html
good luck and you'll save big bucks with your buddies help!
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Sorry to hear that, but hope it will be a good experience on the rebuild, sounds like you got the number 1 requirement for it-good help/guidance-I've always enjoyed it(just not under your circumstances)! One other thing not to overlook is the rest of the drivetrain, if you took that much water, it done got into everything and will, without a doubt, destroy trans, diffs and 'case if left in there. Speak from experience, but I can relate, this is why I had to learn how to install and set-up a ring and pinion in a 9" and Dana 44! And now you have the perfect excuse to make all kinds of performance upgrades! Good luck with your project.
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Hey thanks for the References AIM.
Chuck P.
I wasn't planning on messing with the Trans. or Diff. Do you
really think I need to? I'll drain and replace Fluids but I
wasn't planning on anything else. I don't want to bite off
more than I can chew.
Chuck P.
I wasn't planning on messing with the Trans. or Diff. Do you
really think I need to? I'll drain and replace Fluids but I
wasn't planning on anything else. I don't want to bite off
more than I can chew.
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maybe i missed it in your post, but did you drain the oil and pition ssibly the WATER that may be in your engine? you may have a condition called hydrostatic lock. even if you took plugs out, the engine could have so much fluid in it that it can't crank.
i have seen this in engines that were in floods, and where someone had way too much oil(they let auto trans fluid out of vehicle, and added 4 qts of engine oil on top of what was in already. both scenarios were ccheap fixes. just don't wait too long to ccheck.
i have seen this in engines that were in floods, and where someone had way too much oil(they let auto trans fluid out of vehicle, and added 4 qts of engine oil on top of what was in already. both scenarios were ccheap fixes. just don't wait too long to ccheck.
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Yeah, you got it, that's all I was refering to, is that you should change the fluids right away and not let it sit in there until the rebuild is completed, this will give you problems with bearings and seals if the water is left in them for any amount of time, figured you don't need anymore problems than you already have! As far as the mods, that was in reference to the engine since your going in there anyway, now is the time to think about performance upgrades if you can (cam, higher comp., ect.). But only if you won't have to deal with fed or local over emissions. Good luck, have a good weekend!
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I agree with billyb, just because you sucked water in the intake does'nt mean you need a rebuild. Drain all the oil, and replace with fresh oil. Unless its been sitting with water in it for about a year. You should be able to turn it over by hand at least. You can rebuild if you want too, but maybe build a engine from the junkyard, you can run the one you have until you get the other one rebuilt, then one weekend, swap 'em. Then you want be out of your ride. Just my 2 cents. Rob
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RRL 78
Thanks for input. But I can't turn the crank by hand and I have
the plugs out. Is there something I'm missing? I don't really
know what hydrostatic lock is but I know I can't get the crank
to turn the way I'm trying so let me know if you have any Ideas.
Thanks
Thanks for input. But I can't turn the crank by hand and I have
the plugs out. Is there something I'm missing? I don't really
know what hydrostatic lock is but I know I can't get the crank
to turn the way I'm trying so let me know if you have any Ideas.
Thanks
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Have you drained all the oil,water? There is such a thing as crank case pressure. If you have too much fluid in the crank case, there is no room for crank movement. On top of the pistons, with the plugs out, you have removed the pressure,water, etc. but in the crank case its full, and there's no room for the pistons to travel down. If its been sitting for a while with water in the engine, its possible that the engine has frozen up. How long ago did you suck water in the intake? Keep me posted. Rob
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Rob,
Thanks for explaining that. Now I get the crank case pressure.
The Bronco has been sitting for almost 2 weeks now. I had given
up trying to turn the crank and started hunting for rebuilds.
I will drain the oil and try it again and let you know what happens. thanks for the help!
Leevi
Thanks for explaining that. Now I get the crank case pressure.
The Bronco has been sitting for almost 2 weeks now. I had given
up trying to turn the crank and started hunting for rebuilds.
I will drain the oil and try it again and let you know what happens. thanks for the help!
Leevi
