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Old May 3, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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What drill bit would you use with a 1/4-20 tap?
What brand of taps you recommend?
 
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Old May 3, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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13/64" drill for 1/4"-20 Tap. Hanson, Vermont tap & Die, greenlee these are all good tools. Try and stay away fron foreign made taps. You don't want to cut corners here, a broken tap can be a lot of work to remove.
 
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Old May 3, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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Old May 3, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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A #7 drill will give the proper size hole for a 75% thread for aluminum, brass, plastic, etc. Use a 7/32 drill for a 50% thread in steel. Use plenty of lubricant - WD40 works well for aluminum and brass, high sulfur pipe threading oil works well for steel. Back the tap up a quarter turn every half turn or so to break the chip and you'll have less chance of breaking a tap. Personally, I use spiral point taps in thru holes. they push the chips ahead of the tap and don't require you to keep backing the tap out to remove chips.
 
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Old May 4, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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Here is a chart:
http://www.motionnet.com/cgi-bin/sea...howlink&no=560

Look around on that site, there is a lot of interesting info including a decent spelling checker and units converter:
http://www.spellcheck.net/
http://www.unitsconverter.net/
 
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Old May 4, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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If you don't have a chart handy, you just subtract the distance of one thread from the diameter. 1/4"-20 = 20 threads per inch. 1/20 of an inch equals .050". .250 (1/4") - .050 = .200. A number 7 drill is .201. Metric taps are easier, because the pitch given is already one pitch, rather than threads-per-inch, like SAE threads. So- an 8.0 X 1.0 tap would simply use a 7mm drill. As previously mentioned, you can go a little bigger in hard-to-tap materials, unless it's something critical. There are various goopy tapping fluids on the market that really improve results, but even a few drops of oil is a big improvement.
 
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Old May 5, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PupnDuck
A #7 drill will give the proper size hole for a 75% thread for aluminum, brass, plastic, etc. Use a 7/32 drill for a 50% thread in steel. Use plenty of lubricant - WD40 works well for aluminum and brass, high sulfur pipe threading oil works well for steel. Back the tap up a quarter turn every half turn or so to break the chip and you'll have less chance of breaking a tap. Personally, I use spiral point taps in thru holes. they push the chips ahead of the tap and don't require you to keep backing the tap out to remove chips.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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Morse makes some really good taps. You would probably have to get them from an industrial supply place. Working clean and using lubrication is probably the most important part of making your cutting tools last.
 
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Originally Posted by Torque1st
The link is no good..... where is it> thanks....
 
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Great post FLgargoyle.

We used to get some 3/8" aluminum plates tapped to mount our systems. The machinist who usually did it used water for cutting fluid. Said it worked great. I think that it was 6120 Aluminum, but it's been quite a while.
 
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check out Rutland tool co. I have a craftsman metric tap and die set (got it for xmas one year) and a cheap harbour frieght (got it for free from a friend) The HF one is good enough to chase threads. The craftsman one is okay, but I found that the ones I bought at Rutland seem to be very good.

http://www.shoprutlandtool.com/webap...roductId=10144
 
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