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From: San Diego, CA
Originally Posted by biz4two
IMO...FORD should hook-up with Volvo. I know that the car division is different, but heck that should give FORD the "in" to the Volvo diesel truck engines. biz
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From: Albuquerque
Originally Posted by mattebury
Ford owns Volvo cars, Volvo trucks was spun off when Ford acquired the car brand.
Anyway...that is my opinion that Volvo Trucks should make the new diesel for FORD.
biz
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6.0L Problems
Originally Posted by MobeyDick
Navistar didn't create the so called problems with the 6.0, In my opinion. I haven't seen any evidence the 6.0 was any worst then the 7.3 for what it was designed to do, (it’s lighter duty then the 7.3 and it was put in a vehicle that needed more). They built what Ford specked. Ford didn't realize people would try to put 200 HP Programmers and try to get warranty work out of them. Navistar has to be allowed to make a profit just like Ford. If Navistar accepts Fords position they will no longer be able to build any Diesel Motors or anything else for that matter. It’s called being out of business. Both companies will have to give a little. I will say this Ford had better watch out Navistar could shutter the doors “Friday” and Ford would be shut out of the Diesel market for 5 years at least!! Bankruptcy court could really play havoc on Fords ability to Sell Diesels they don’t have!!
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From: Oregon
WOW!!!! That's unbelievable. For one they usually don't buyback a truck with that many miles on it and if your dealer replaced 27 04 engines they need to learn how to work on them. And lastly your faulty EGR would not "fry" your engine.
I hope your not Trolling!!!!!!!
As far as laying blame on the engine It is manufactured by Navistar and regardless if they were responsible for the tweaking of the engine to Fords specs or not they built it and should stand behind it. I work for an manufacturing facility and we build items for numerous customers some even to their specs but we wouldn't built them if we didn't feel that they are up to par with the current building standards....
I hope your not Trolling!!!!!!!
As far as laying blame on the engine It is manufactured by Navistar and regardless if they were responsible for the tweaking of the engine to Fords specs or not they built it and should stand behind it. I work for an manufacturing facility and we build items for numerous customers some even to their specs but we wouldn't built them if we didn't feel that they are up to par with the current building standards....
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Originally Posted by Enomra
WOW!!!! That's unbelievable. For one they usually don't buyback a truck with that many miles on it and if your dealer replaced 27 04 engines they need to learn how to work on them. And lastly your faulty EGR would not "fry" your engine.
I hope your not Trolling!!!!!!!
As far as laying blame on the engine It is manufactured by Navistar and regardless if they were responsible for the tweaking of the engine to Fords specs or not they built it and should stand behind it. I work for an manufacturing facility and we build items for numerous customers some even to their specs but we wouldn't built them if we didn't feel that they are up to par with the current building standards....
I hope your not Trolling!!!!!!!
As far as laying blame on the engine It is manufactured by Navistar and regardless if they were responsible for the tweaking of the engine to Fords specs or not they built it and should stand behind it. I work for an manufacturing facility and we build items for numerous customers some even to their specs but we wouldn't built them if we didn't feel that they are up to par with the current building standards....
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From: Ellensburg, Washington
I heard that the reason ford dosnt want to pay full price on the new '08 6.4 is because they're still payin off the 6.0 problems and warranty work and they feel they dont have to pay full price on it cause they got the shaft on a faulty motor to begin with. Irregardless, Ford and navistar should have just stuck with the 7.3 powerplant in my opinion.
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From: Poway, CA
If Ford was smart (are you listening Ford?) they'd secertly get together with CAT and develop a bullit proof truck engine that would as good or better than Cummins.
Everybody knows Ford builds the best trucks, if they combined that with the most reliable engine (CAT), they would OWN the market.
Keep in mind, most of us out here driving out trucks need one thing above all else, RELIABILITY!
I don't care if my truck is always the fastest, has the most bells & whistles, but by God when I'm hundreds of miles from home, towing a load, I sure as hell don't want to wind up along side the road waiting for a tow truck because my 'made in mexico' wiring harness fell off.
Like I say, anyone at Ford listening???????
Everybody knows Ford builds the best trucks, if they combined that with the most reliable engine (CAT), they would OWN the market.
Keep in mind, most of us out here driving out trucks need one thing above all else, RELIABILITY!
I don't care if my truck is always the fastest, has the most bells & whistles, but by God when I'm hundreds of miles from home, towing a load, I sure as hell don't want to wind up along side the road waiting for a tow truck because my 'made in mexico' wiring harness fell off.
Like I say, anyone at Ford listening???????
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http://ohe.cat.com/cda/layout?m=85540&x=7
Drop this bad boy in a SD......Similar displacement to a 7.3 with a tiny bit more power....
I want one.
Drop this bad boy in a SD......Similar displacement to a 7.3 with a tiny bit more power....
I want one.
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From: Poway, CA
WOW, imagine a CAT C7 with the big new Alison tranny behing it in a Super Duty, druel, druel, gulp, I can't breath!!!!
Cylinders In-Line 6
Bore/Stroke 4.33 x 5.00 (110mm x 127mm)
Displacement 7.2 L (441 cu in)
Weight 1425 lb (647 kg)
Horsepower 300-350 hp @ 2400 rpm
Torque 520-860 lb-ft @ 1440 rpm
Durability- Laboratory tests and engine disassembly analyses indicate that the Cat C7 engine has a B50 life of 450,000 to 500,000 miles.
I'm surprised someone hasn't already done this as a way-too-cool project!
Cylinders In-Line 6
Bore/Stroke 4.33 x 5.00 (110mm x 127mm)
Displacement 7.2 L (441 cu in)
Weight 1425 lb (647 kg)
Horsepower 300-350 hp @ 2400 rpm
Torque 520-860 lb-ft @ 1440 rpm
Durability- Laboratory tests and engine disassembly analyses indicate that the Cat C7 engine has a B50 life of 450,000 to 500,000 miles.
I'm surprised someone hasn't already done this as a way-too-cool project!
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From: Albuquerque
Originally Posted by badbrad60
http://ohe.cat.com/cda/layout?m=85540&x=7
Drop this bad boy in a SD......Similar displacement to a 7.3 with a tiny bit more power.... I want one.
Drop this bad boy in a SD......Similar displacement to a 7.3 with a tiny bit more power....
I want one. 
I have a smile from EAR-2-EAR!
biz
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From: California
Originally Posted by myotis
I am not sure it is that easy for Ford to design and build their own diesel engine. In my opinion they are between a rock and hard place. They won't get a Cummings, Chrysler keeps it's hands on that engine tightly.
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From: California
Originally Posted by powerstroked162
Thats an interesting point. I wonder where ford came up with the extra 100 ponies
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