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I'll jump right on the CAT bandwagon. But about the 6.0, any problems are not International's fault. After all, from what I've been told the VT365 (6.0) is a pretty reliable engine that they rate at 230HP. Ford bought the engine and rates it at 325HP. I'll bet they'll run forever at 230HP.
Your statements about the problems from consumers adding 200 hp and trying to get warranty work is way off base. If the only problems Ford had with theses engines were related to aftermarket equipment then we wouldn't even be talking about issues with the 6.0. You cannot blame stuck unison rings(sticky turbo's), faulty EGR's, leaking and sticking Injectors, wire Chaffing and the constant reprogramming on the aftermarket world.
Sorry I'm not buying it.
Just using your thoughts. What you have to say a whole lot of people had to say. However, look at your post. The turbo, EGRs, injectors and Chaffing were all looked at and a redisign was done. There is a significant difference between the "2003" engines and the "2004" engines. The turbo has been a problem experienced by some. The basic engine design except perhaps that the head bolts which needed to be upgraded was a sound system. I have always felt that if the EPA had not commanded the american auto industries to come up with a better pollution design we would still have the 6.0 . IMO the 6.0 should have been given a better chance. The 2 cylinder deletion of this engine, the 4.5; is being used without problems in MANY vehicles around the world.
Now it seems a small diesel is being R&D tracked for the F150 and expedition.
I just wonder if it is a 4.5 in pollution mode.
LETS hope ford doesnt do there own engine remember what happened when chebby got the idea to do a engine we got the 6.5! Ford would be smart to focus on mpgs and dependability and the rest would take care of itself.
I have had a 03 6.0 that had turbo issues and when they replaced it they went away so yes they are fixing them. My old 03 is now a very reliable truck and the new owner loves it. I now have a 06 6.0 and it has performed flawlessly. These people who post blanket statements about the 6.0 are very uninformed. The later years 05,06,07 are as good as they get.
I have had a 03 6.0 that had turbo issues and when they replaced it they went away so yes they are fixing them. My old 03 is now a very reliable truck and the new owner loves it. I now have a 06 6.0 and it has performed flawlessly. These people who post blanket statements about the 6.0 are very uninformed. The later years 05,06,07 are as good as they get.
Exactly! I have an 06' and at 23K it has never had an issue even though I drive it like I stole it most of the time. It is bone stock because I personally see no reason nor have a need for it be any "faster" as it tows my fat toyhauler beautifully as is and that is why I bought it in the first place. I LOVE my stupid truck.....
LETS hope ford doesnt do there own engine remember what happened when chebby got the idea to do a engine we got the 6.5! Ford would be smart to focus on mpgs and dependability and the rest would take care of itself.
It was the 5.7 diesel that GM decided to make its self. The 6.2 and 6.5 were made by detriot allison.
about the 6.0, any problems are not International's fault.........the VT365 (6.0) is a pretty reliable engine that they rate at 230HP. Ford bought the engine and rates it at 325HP. I'll bet they'll run forever at 230HP.
Exactly. Take an engine that International runs at 230 HP, is governed to 2800 RPM, and has very low fatality rate......then put the Ford programming "gurus" to work to mess with injection pulse width and timing, and spin it to 4200 RPM.......see how long it lasts.
Exactly. Take an engine that International runs at 230 HP, is governed to 2800 RPM, and has very low fatality rate......then put the Ford programming "gurus" to work to mess with injection pulse width and timing, and spin it to 4200 RPM.......see how long it lasts.
Ford does own Range Rover now and Range Rover has been producing diesel engines for a long time. In one of the diesel magazines I have they showed a Range Rover small V8 diesel with twin variable geometry turbos and rumors that they may stick that engine in the F150. As much as I would hate to see it happen it is probably only a matter of time until Ford drops Navistar.
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IMO...FORD should hook-up with Volvo. I know that the car division is different, but heck that should give FORD the "in" to the Volvo diesel truck engines.