Just picked up my first diesel (05/F250). Can someone tell me if this is normal.
When I shut the truck off there is what sounds like the fuel pump whine-ing that lasts for approx. 30 seconds. The dealer told me it was normal for the 6.0's.
Is this something I need to have them fix or look into.

Thanks,

Luke

 

welcome aboard luke. what your hearing is the post cycle for the injectors. it is normal, but they can do the latest update that is better and quieter for free if you are under 5/100k and complaine enough.

 

thanks for the reply buddy. The truck has 32k miles, what do you mean by "the last update". Tune??

Luke

 

with 32k, you might still be under 36/36 so you will be ok. ford put the buzz flash in the pcm/ficm sometime befor you aquired the truck. now they have updated the flash where the post cycle is gone.

 

sounds good man, I will start raising some hell and see if I cant get them to flash the pcm.

 

That's the new reflash with the injectors depleting all the excess fuel out.

 

They're not cycling fuel out. The injector buzz is the spool valve cycling oil out, to help with cold weather start issues. The latest flash will inductively heat the spool valves to warm the oil left in there for easier starting on cold mornings.

 

ok, these guys in service said they dont know of any update for the pcm other than the factory one then said "why would you want to change the post cyle, the factory put there for a reason and its not causing a problem".

any suggestions?

Luke

 

I stand corrected Bowser, I honestly was thinking oil but my fingers were thinking fuel OOPS!

 

Typical......... Read the following:

Tsb 07-5-4 Cold Start Driveability - White Smoke, Lacks Power, Exhaust Odor, Surges, Runs Rough

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FORD:

2003-2005 Excursion
2003-2007 F-Super Duty
2004-2007 E-350, E-450




This article supersedes TSB 06-22-3 to update the Service Procedure.

ISSUE:

Some vehicles equipped with a 6.0L diesel engine may experience white smoke, lack of power, exhaust odor, surges, running rough, or no start when cold. These conditions are caused by the injector spool valve sticking internally during cold engine operation (engine oil temperature (EOT) less than 70 °F ( 21 °C)) . The concern is typically evident following a cold start after an overnight soak at ambient temperatures below 70 °F (21 °C). and may last 3-5 minutes or longer as the vehicle warms up. The concern completely disappears after driving and the EOT is greater than 150 °F (66 °C). This concern typically occurs on vehicles with greater than 15,000 miles (24,140 Km/h).
ACTION:

Diagnose and address any warm driveability issues or hard fault diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) prior to performing this TSB. Then if cold driveability symptoms still exist use the following Service Procedure.
SERVICE PROCEDURE



This procedure includes a FICM calibration that adds inductive heating of the injector coils to locally heat the oil in the injector to normal operating temperatures very rapidly and keep it hot until normal overall engine oil temperature is achieved. This will prevent cold spool valve sticking on all injectors. Therefore, it will not be necessary to replace fuel injectors for the cold driveability symptoms listed in this TSB.
NOTE: DO NOT USE CLICK TEST OR POWER BALANCE TO IDENTIFY COLD INJECTOR PERFORMANCE ISSUES, BECAUSE THE INDUCTIVE HEATING STRATEGY IS NOT ACTIVE DURING THESE TESTS. INJECTORS WHICH DO NOT RESPOND IN CLICK TEST OR POWER BALANCE WILL RESPOND IN NORMAL RUN MODE WITH THE INDUCTIVE HEAT CALIBRATION


Inductive heat is active in Key On Engine Run (KOER) mode below 2500 RPM. It is tapered out from 131-167 °F (55-75 °C) EOT, and is fully deactivated above 185 °F (85 °C) EOT.
NOTE: IF THE VEHICLE RUNS ROUGH OR HAS A MISFIRE WHEN THE ENGINE IS AT OPERATING TEMPERATURE, DIAGNOSE THOSE CONCERNS BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH THIS TSB.


This updated calibration strategy is a greater improvement than the previous post-cycle Fuel Injector Control Module (FICM) software release that cycled the injectors after shutdown (TSB 06-22-3). This strategy will eliminate the need to post-cycle the injector spool valves, and as a result will also eliminate the need to perform the E-Series wiring modification. The strategy achieves rapid heating of the oil in the injector through inductive heating of the injector coils. The Customer Information Sheet that was included with TSB 06-22-3 is no longer necessary.
Customers who receive this new calibration after previously having received the post-cycle calibration (described in 06-22-3) will notice the buzzing noise at shutdown has been eliminated. This is normal, as the post-cycle is no longer needed with inductive heating. Additionally, for E-Series there is no need to remove wiring modifications that were previously performed per TSB 06-22-3. Unmodified E-Series vehicles will NOT need the wiring modification with this calibration.
Using Module Reprogramming: FICM menu in IDS, reprogram the FICM to the latest calibration using IDS release 47.8 and higher or 48.2 and higher. This new calibration is not included in the VCM 2007.3 DVD. Calibration files may also be obtained at www.motorcraft.com.
If the customer previously had the Post Cycle calibration, notify them they will no longer hear the injector cycling after engine shutdown.
WARRANTY STATUS:

Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage And Emissions Warranty Coverage
IMPORTANT: Warranty coverage limits/policies are not altered by a TSB. Warranty coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part.
OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
070504A 2003-2007 F-Super Duty, 2003-2005 Excursion, 2004-2007 Econoline 350/450 6.0L: Reprogram The Fuel Injector Control Module (FICM) (Do Not Use With 12650D, 12650D84) 0.7 Hr.

DEALER CODING

BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE
9E527 42

 

thanks, good reading there. I called service back up and spoke with somone different. GO FIGURE.....they new exactly what I was talking about. But, will not cover under warranty unless there is a driveability issue with the truck and if I wanted to I could bring it in and pay for the latest pcm flash. Said it would be roughly 106$ tax included.

Thanks to ALL for the info.
Luke

 

Tell them you are having cold start issues, ie, long crank times. If they still won't do it you need to find a different dealer. They aren't worth your time.