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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Jim6090, Have you got your truck back yet. My brother inlaw took his in for the same thing last week and they claim that they know nothing about the new head gaskets and bolts? His is an early '05 F350 Screw Dually 4x4. Your description is exactly like his and the same work that you describe has been done (2 EGR's). He relies on his for his business and also for hauling "toy haulers" around on the week-end. He has a '99 in the same truck that has 285K on it and has never seen this kind of problems, so to say the least he is pretty dissappointed in the '05 but he really likes it and just wants it fixed.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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Kepler4: Can you verify that the head bolts were updated in Jan of 2006. The commonizing of the heads included the head gaskets to accept the larger aligning pins. I cannot find anything that states the head bolts were changed until the 6.4 came out.
Well Enomra (and DieselDan), I was abso-darn-lutely WRONG!
The head bolts were not changed on the 6.0 that I can find, IH just changed QC on the robotics that torqued the head bolts as that was causing issues. They had problems with inconsistent bolt torque which lead to head gaskets getting blown out.

Somebody pass me a hot dog bun cuz I'm a weiner on this one...
 
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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and haven't we all been at one time or another....

got yur' back though...
 
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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Hey all, thanks for all the comments and suggestions! I appreciate it! Wiingnut, yeah, the sticker on the degas bottle got changed this go-round. The tech at the Ford dealer is good, and he is busy too. I think every old dude(including me) in this area has a Superduty of one size or another. Well, going testing at dragstrip tommorrow, so I will know if the puking is handled. God Bless our Troops!!!!! DALEDIESEL
 
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Glad to hear all is well and you found a very good teck.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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kepler4, I remember reading this about a year ago


Subject: 2006 6.0L Diesel Power Stroke Cylinder Head Commonization
Effective Date: Ford Production Assembly Plants - January 11, 2006
Kentucky Truck Plant (Super Duty) & Lorraine Assembly Plant (Econoline)
Description
Changes are being made to the 6.0L diesel cylinder head, head gasket, crankcase block, rocker
arm carrier and injector hold down clamps for the 2006 Super Duty and Econoline Program. The
action is taking place to facilitate/communize the International manufacturing process for the
upcoming 6.4L program. The 2006 6.0L used in Ford vehicles after January 11, 2006 are being
referred to as "Commonization Engines".
Part number details are provided on a separate excel spreadsheet.

Figure 1 - New cylinder head
1. Carrier boss bolt holes M10 x 1.5
2. Injector clamp bolt holes (relocated)
The new cylinder heads have several casting changes including a slight injector clamp bolt hole
relocation (2, figure 1) and the carrier boss bolt hole size and location changes (1, figure 1). New
cylinder heads also use 32 mm cup plugs replacing the old 28 mm cup plugs.
The cylinder head gasket is also new to accommodate the new 20mm cylinder head location
dowels. Pre commonization head use 18mm dowels
Note: At this time the new cylinder head assembly is not interchangeable with the previously level
head.

Figure 2 – Previous Level Cylinder Head
1. Carrier boss bolt holes M8 x 1.5
2. Injector clamp bolt holes (original locations)
Note: The previous level cylinder head assembly is not interchangeable with the new head.

Figure 3 - New Block Assembly
The new crankcase (block) uses two 20mm cylinder head locating dowels per head.
The old crankcase (block) uses two 18mm cylinder head locating dowels per head.
Note: The new and old block assembly is not interchangeable. This affects replacement of all 6009
short blocks and the 6010 bare blocks.

Rocker Arm Carrier:
Figure 4 - New Rocker Arm Carrier
Casting changes to the rocker carrier provide increased clearance for new injector hold down
clamps (figure 6). The new carrier also uses only 2 bolts and locating dowels to attach the carrier
to the head.
The new rocker carrier is serviced in a Rocker Arm Carrier Kit which includes the rocker carrier
cover, gasket and necessary dowels.
Note: The new and old rocker arm carrier kits are not interchangeable.

Figure 5 – Previous Level Rocker Arm Carrier Kit
The old rocker arm carrier uses 4 attaching bolts to hold the carrier to the old cylinder head (figure
2).
The previous rocker arm carrier is also serviced in a kit which includes the rocker carrier cover,
gasket and necessary dowels.
Note: The previous level rocker arm kit is not interchangeable with the new kit and will remain
available for service.
Injector Hold Down Clamp:
Figure 6 - New Injector Hold Down Clamp Assembly
The tail end of the new injector hold down clamp is being reduced to avoid interference with the
rocker arm carrier wall. Injector hold down clamp bolt torque will increase from 24 lbf·ft to 25.8 lbf·ft
and bolt head size will increase from T40 to T45.
Note: The new and old injector hold down clamps are not in interchangeable.

Figure 7 – Previous Level Injector Hold Down Clamp Assembly
Note: The new and old injector hold down clamps are not in interchangeable. The old injector hold
down clamp will remain available for service.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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Still puking!!

Hey all! Truck is still puking coolant. I left my place and drove 12 miles, pulled (1) good grade, and pulled over. I thought I had smelled coolant, and lo and behold, I did!! So I will call Ford again tommorrow, and see what's next. God Bless our Troops!!! DALEDIESEL
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by wiingnut
Has the recall for the coolant level resevoir been performed. Without the sticker setting new level the truck will always be over filled
wiingnut or anyone else with the new coolant level sticker

Could you give me the new sticker coolant level between the old MIN and MAX indication? I keep my coolant tank level about 1/2 inch below the MAX mark without the sticker. That is probably to high from what I read.

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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When you take the cap off of the de-gass reservoir, you will see a "flange" at the bottom of the threads that the cap screws onto. My MAX level for coolant (this is with the new sticker) is 2 inches below the level of this flange. I run the level 1/4 to 1/2 inch below this MAX level.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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BISMIC, Thanks for the info on the coolant level, I will check mine in the A.M.. Is your level lower than Ford's "new level"? Take care! DALEDIESEL
 
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