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True or false that aftermarket add-ons will help MPG? Okay, this topic has been kicked around more than once I'm sure. But I want to hear it from some of you long time V10 owners. Is it worth spending the money on upgrades such as intakes, exhausts and tuners to try and increase your mileage? I keep seeing mixed reviews. I understand some poeple are going to do it because they want to. Others say don't waste your time and money because no matter what you do, the changes if any are not very significant. Is there anything out there that has made a noticeable difference? How about tuners. We know they help out the diesel guys, does it work on the V10. Everyone likes to squeak out 1 or 2 more MPG if possible. I would like to know are there any products that will do this?
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Think about it this way.
The V10 gets a certain MPG number.
The V8 (missing an entire two cylinder's worth of friction) gets almost the SAME EXACT milage, and in some cases WORSE when under load.
If going from 415 cubic inches down to 331 doesn't yield MPG improvement, do you really think ANY gadget is going to help ?
I think not.
Best MPG improvement gadget:
Put a raw egg under the go-pedal. I've been told kittens work too, but you have to like cats
The V10 gets a certain MPG number.
The V8 (missing an entire two cylinder's worth of friction) gets almost the SAME EXACT milage, and in some cases WORSE when under load.
If going from 415 cubic inches down to 331 doesn't yield MPG improvement, do you really think ANY gadget is going to help ?
I think not.
Best MPG improvement gadget:
Put a raw egg under the go-pedal. I've been told kittens work too, but you have to like cats
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These guys have it about right. I mean look at it this way, a tunner costs about $300 for a cheap one. an intake about $150, an are filter about another $75, and then the a decent exhaust is probably around $500. now these are even a little optamistic but well use them anyway. lets just say you get 1 mpg out of all this so your average goes from 11 mpg to 12mpg at $3 per gallon. It'll take 45,100 miles before you offset that $1025. Now if you only get a half mile per gallon it take 86,442 miles to offset the price you paid for your products.
Chances are you'll see less than one mpg gain from a conbination of stuff. If you want it to have it, for the little extra power, and the slight mpg gain, what the heck, go for it. but if you're buying just for mpg you'd be better off just using the egg or kitty cat.
Chances are you'll see less than one mpg gain from a conbination of stuff. If you want it to have it, for the little extra power, and the slight mpg gain, what the heck, go for it. but if you're buying just for mpg you'd be better off just using the egg or kitty cat.
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Originally Posted by THEDON117
I would like to know are there any products that will do this?
Did you know the most fuel efficinet trucks & SUVs on the market today excluding hybrids, don't have super free flowing exhausts or K&N FIPKs or even come with high fallutin', super Euro-spec synthetic oil from the factory? They all have one thing in common. Small engine, light body. For us to really affect change in our fuel consumption we must reduce weight & rolling resistance.
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Thanks for all the constructive criticism fellas 
. In other words there is nothing to improve MPG besides keeping your foot out of it, which I don't do anyway. Well, looks like you guys have helped me make up my mind. Thanks.
. In other words there is nothing to improve MPG besides keeping your foot out of it, which I don't do anyway. Well, looks like you guys have helped me make up my mind. Thanks.
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Matter of fact, want to save gas? RESTRICT the exhaust as much as you can.
It will keep fresh air out of the system, which means the computer won't put as much gas in ...
It will keep fresh air out of the system, which means the computer won't put as much gas in ...
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If you could come up with something to improve the mileage at all, with out changing the emissions, or damaging the engine, Ford would do it in a heart beat. they want better mileage as much or more than you do.
Just keep it well maintained, and use the egg.
Just keep it well maintained, and use the egg.
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I don't think they really care about the mileage on the V10. It doesn't have to conform to any requirements for MPG performance. They look for the best balance between performance numbers, NVH & cost to build.
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Unfortunately I may have to retire my V10 because of where we are moving. California is not a place known for cheap gas or for anything else for that matter. No pun intended for you Cali readers. I don't have a choice of where we are going because the military dictates that. But we will be driving a lot more than we do now just to get anywhere. This is why I asked the question about squezeing more MPG out the V10. At this point I don't think it will be a practical daily driver. Looks like I will be downsizing. I've never owned a foreign truck before, and the thought of doing it scares me. But I'm looking at what will still suit my needs, and give the MPG I'm looking for. Thanks for the replys guys.
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You may mot even be able to register it in California if it doesn't have the proper emissions equipment. Being active duty, you can keep it registered in your home state. You may not be able to sell it once you're in California, so do your research before you move.
$3.50 gas hurts just as much no matter what you put it in. Tacomas, Frontiers and Rangers with V6s still only average around 17 mpg.
$3.50 gas hurts just as much no matter what you put it in. Tacomas, Frontiers and Rangers with V6s still only average around 17 mpg.
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I understand what you guys are saying. I know that I can't get around paying the higher prices in Cali, that's just the way it is. But, I would rather pay $3.50 a gallon on a 20 gallon tank and drive longer than on a 30 gallon tank. And 17mpg is better than 10mpg. Most of the guys I know that are driving the smaller trucks are getting better than 17mpg. They are averaging near 20mpg. Where I live now in Alaska we have the same emissions that Cali does. So, I'm not worried about being able to get it smog tested. And I'm planning on keeping it registered in Alaska so I don't have to pay the higher prices. Like I said, I just don't think it will be practical down there.