off road fuel???
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I knew of a guy that claimed he wasn't gonna pay the high prices, and that he didn't care what they did, he was going to run the red fuel no matter what. Well, he got caught. The fine was something like $1000 per gallon, or something like that, and he couldn't operate his vehicle until he removed the red fuel from it. Guess he's singin' a different tune now....
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From: N. Georgia
Years ago, everything was high sulfur diesel. It all came out of the same tanker truck and the red dye was added at the station when the fuel was put in the storage tanks.
We then went to low sulfur diesel. At most stations the same thing was still happening. The tanker pulled in and dumped the exact same fuel in the storage tanks and just added dye to the off road tank. At a large station (that sells a lot of off road to farmers and construction companies) you might actually find high sulfur diesel in the off road tanks. You could still go to the tank yards (distributor) and buy the high sulfur off road.
Now that we've gone to ultra low sulfur diesel, I don't see how the off road can still be the same as in the on road tanks. If they fill the tanks with ultra low sulfur diesel and add dye to it, you are still running ultra low sulfur diesel in your grading equipment. Less lube in the fuel would be a bad, bad thing for your heavy equipment.
I'll ask a few tanker drivers how they are doing it now when I see them.
Joe
We then went to low sulfur diesel. At most stations the same thing was still happening. The tanker pulled in and dumped the exact same fuel in the storage tanks and just added dye to the off road tank. At a large station (that sells a lot of off road to farmers and construction companies) you might actually find high sulfur diesel in the off road tanks. You could still go to the tank yards (distributor) and buy the high sulfur off road.
Now that we've gone to ultra low sulfur diesel, I don't see how the off road can still be the same as in the on road tanks. If they fill the tanks with ultra low sulfur diesel and add dye to it, you are still running ultra low sulfur diesel in your grading equipment. Less lube in the fuel would be a bad, bad thing for your heavy equipment.
I'll ask a few tanker drivers how they are doing it now when I see them.
Joe
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off road is actually better for the truck..more sulfer more lubrication..everyone i know runs it and they never have any problems..the only thing they do is change thier fuel filter more,and this is because not as much off road get bought from the fuel station and it has a tendacy to have a little more contaminents in it...
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From: Neptune Beach, FL
Wow.. Down here in Texas.. You can run dyed fuel on the road if you have Farm/Ranch plates.. But you best be somewhere close to your Ranch or your hauling something or going to pickup a tractor away from the ranch some distance.. We have a tank at the Ranch that we use Offroad Diesel in.. I've gone as far as El Paso to pick up a Deere in our 93 Cummins.. I got stopped by DPS and they literally called the tractor shop where I was picking it up and asked them to verify my mailing address on the P/O for pickup.. Most of all Farm/Ranch plates get stopped and diesel is checked..
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From: Coopersburg, PA
i accitdently filled up my 03 6.0L with a full tank of off road deisel in florida just south of alabama. didn't relize i was at the wrong pump till i saw the red fuel dribble out when she over filled a tad. made a drive back home to PA with no problems. accutally got 1 mpg better on that tank.
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Don't use it. You'll be fined, all of your hair will fall out, you will get fat, your wife will run off with the oil delivery man and your kids will become democrats! 
I asked the question a while back, on a different thread, if anyone had been fined or imprisoned because of off road fuel. No one replied (although we did get a lot of "I knew this guy" stuff).
I asked if anyone had ever been denied warranty work; Same response.
I asked the question a while back, on a different thread, if anyone had been fined or imprisoned because of off road fuel. No one replied (although we did get a lot of "I knew this guy" stuff).
I asked if anyone had ever been denied warranty work; Same response.
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I saw a program a while back that detailed how oil is refined and how sulfer is removed from fuel. I would venture to believe that the larger volume suppliers of off road fuel, probably still get the lsd fuel and not always the ulsd fuel, the process of removing the sulfer is a LARGE part or the refining cost.
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my 06 book says not to use it in the 6.0 ltr internal damage is possible thats all it took for me. My brother in law runs it in his 7.3 but he can afford the fine. Big bucks if your caught.
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The statement made about the 2006 manual saying off road fuel causes internal damage isn't true. Ford wants you to think this by the way the manual is worded.
The 2006 Diesel Supplement (2nd printing) says the following 2 statements:
Do not use home heating oil or any diesel fuel not intended for highway use. Red dye is used to identify fuels intended for agricultural and non-highway use.
Damage to the fuel injection system, engine and exhaust catalyst can occur if an improper fuel is used.
You will note this does not say that "diesel fuel not intended for highway use" is an improper fuel. The idea that off-road fuel will cause damage may be inferred by the 2 statements being together, but the manual does not specify off-road fuel or home heating oil as being an improper fuel.
The 2006 Diesel Supplement (2nd printing) says the following 2 statements:
Do not use home heating oil or any diesel fuel not intended for highway use. Red dye is used to identify fuels intended for agricultural and non-highway use.
Damage to the fuel injection system, engine and exhaust catalyst can occur if an improper fuel is used.
You will note this does not say that "diesel fuel not intended for highway use" is an improper fuel. The idea that off-road fuel will cause damage may be inferred by the 2 statements being together, but the manual does not specify off-road fuel or home heating oil as being an improper fuel.
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