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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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off road fuel???

has anyone ran "red fuel" in an 03 powerstroke? were there any problems experianced after doing it?
 
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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In most cases red fuel is just dyed low sulfer diesel, so running it poses no risk to your engine (unless you have an 08 with the 6.4 which must run ULSD). However, Ford does state in it's manual not to run dyed fuel, so you could run into warranty problems if you are caught running it. Not to mention the legal issues that you may get into running dyed fuel on the road.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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Huge fines here, from what I've been told, for running off road diesel on the road. The HP has been known to pull folks over and check.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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No difference from regular fuel, will run just fine. Only issues are those of legality (taxes) - huge fines, indeed, if you're caught running it on the road.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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ive never heard of dyed fuel is there somthing special about it? and why would you get a fine for using it
 
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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Ford did issue a notice after Katrina about off road or indutrial diesel use in the 6.0. The off road fuel is a higher sulfur content fuel (>500ppm). This is what is said:

Emergency Use of Off Road Fuel:
The EPA has issued a temporary waiver for the use of high-sulfur off road diesel fuel in vehicles being driven on the road in some areas of the US. This is in response to shortages resulting from hurricanes Katrina and Rita. Using high sulfur fuels (over 500 ppm sulfur) can cause engine damage. It is recommended that oil change intervals be shortened by 50 percent (mileage or operating hours)when high sulfur fuel is being used to help prevent damage. Broadcast Message 4952/53.

So be aware of what kind of fuel you are using and what it's sulfur content is.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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The dyed fuel is not taxed; it’s intended for off the road use, mostly on farms. Running it on the street is illegal.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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It doesn't include road taxes so it is only to be used in off road vehicles like farm tractors or construction equipment. During the diesel shortage after Katrina they allowed the use of dyed fuel in trucks in order to alleviate the shortages, but I believe that was only in effect for a couple months. I believe you may be able to use dyed fuel in a farm truck if it is only used for farm purposes but I cannot guarantee that.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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If you used dyed diesel in on road use truck, even a "farm" truck you would be liable for the fuel tax, and/or fines. If a farmer has a truck the is only used off road they can run the dyed fuel in that. An example might be a truck with a feed wagon that is used in a feed lot and it never leaves the farm.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 02:10 AM
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That's exactly right around here. The only exception I've seen is for non-profit organizations. For example, local volunteer fire companies use it in their trucks because it's cheaper (non-taxed).
 

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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 05:50 AM
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A few weeks back I talked to a guy that had a 05' F-350, 6.0 in it ,,and all he has run in it is the red fuel,,thats 2 yrs now,,but at the time he only had 7,500 miles on the truck,,and on his 2nd turbo.,,I said to him,,well it's good to know the 6.0 will run on it,,,but I will stick with the legal stuff !

He was told by his oil man,,,it all comes from the same tank when they fill up his oil delivery truck,,,just if it's home heating or off road fuel they dump in the dye !
 
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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He was told by his oil man,,,it all comes from the same tank when they fill up his oil delivery truck,,,just if it's home heating or off road fuel they dump in the dye !
That was true up until about october of last year when they introduced ULSD. Now all the fuel for on road use is switched over to ULSD, however dyed off road fuel can still be regular LSD. Some suppiers are just dying ULSD while others are still supplying LSD so I would not take the chance of trying to run dyed fuel in a 6.4L, the 7.3L and 6.0L can run either so it shouldn't matter with them.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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well when the fuel is free and you fill up every 3 days, its kind of hard to turn down
 
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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I understand I would love to get free fuel, but you need to realize we are talking about thousands of dollars in fines not a couple hundred. And I think in some states they can even confiscate your vehicle.

04Xcursion, I'm pretty sure off road fuel has been switched over to LSD (less than 500ppm) for a couple years now. And they have to be switched over to ULSD by 2010 for pretty much everything except for trains (2012).
 
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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well when the fuel is free and you fill up every 3 days, its kind of hard to turn down
Remember your words if you ever get stopped and checked, I'm sure they'll cut you a brake on the fines.
 
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