Aftermarket Intake
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Aftermarket Intake
Hey guys, I've got a 2006 F-350 with the 6.0L PSD. I'm adding a Banks Monster exhaust and the Six Gun Tuner with Speed Loader. I was thinking of adding a aftermarket air filter system as well. K&N now has a replacement box that mimics the stock box, but uses their re-usable filter. They also have the system that uses the "exposed" re-usable filter. Does anyone have any experience with either? Which is better? Price is close for both, so that's not really an issue.
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Welcome to FTE. I am going to warn you now, aftermarket intakes are a heated subject when it comes to the diesel engines. Be prepared for possible bickering between some of the guys and don't think that is what this site is all about, this is just one of the few subjects that tend to get that way.
A large number of people on here feel that the stock airbox flows more air than the vast majority of drivers will need. There is also a large number that feel the aftermarket air filters allow too much dirt and debris past them and cause damage to the turbo.
I personally have an airraid intake to go along with my ram air hood. I only have 2000 miles on my truck right now but I am happy with it so far. When I change my oil I will be pulling the filter and inspecting the inside of the intake to see how dirty it is inside. I will then make a decision on what I need to do. Personally I think if Ford doesn't see a problem with exhaust particles from the EGR and air/oil from the crank case vent going through the turbo then the small amount of dirt that gets by the filter shouldn't be that big of a deal either. Again this is just my personal opinion and I have no hard numbers to back that up.
A large number of people on here feel that the stock airbox flows more air than the vast majority of drivers will need. There is also a large number that feel the aftermarket air filters allow too much dirt and debris past them and cause damage to the turbo.
I personally have an airraid intake to go along with my ram air hood. I only have 2000 miles on my truck right now but I am happy with it so far. When I change my oil I will be pulling the filter and inspecting the inside of the intake to see how dirty it is inside. I will then make a decision on what I need to do. Personally I think if Ford doesn't see a problem with exhaust particles from the EGR and air/oil from the crank case vent going through the turbo then the small amount of dirt that gets by the filter shouldn't be that big of a deal either. Again this is just my personal opinion and I have no hard numbers to back that up.
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Thanks for the input...I know this is kind of a hot topic, but I've had great luck with filters like this on gas engines, and more air is always better, so I'm really wanting to do this mod.
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Originally Posted by MightyWhiteyF350
but I've had great luck with filters like this on gas engines, and more air is always better, so I'm really wanting to do this mod.
The factory system provides more air than your motor can use and is one of the best filtration systems available. NONE of the aftermarket systems filter as well as the factory system, in order for them to flow more air they have bigger holes in the filter media so they don't filter as well.
If you have money burning a hole in your pocket to mod your truck, there are much better places to spend your money.
Turbo or Cat back(may cause warranty problems) exhaust
Full set of gauges
Coolant Filter
Fuel Line balance kit.
And if you really feel you must alter the factory air filtration system then look in the Tech Folder and do the Zoodad mod.
IMO don't waste your money on an aftermarket air filtration system.
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Originally Posted by blackhat620
If you talk to the guys that race the 6.0 they will tell you that the stock air filter assembly is the best thing you can have until you get to extreme mods, (ie bigger injectors, different turbo, tuner with extreme tunes). The stock filter flows more air than the engine can use. More air is NOT better if the engine can't use it.
The factory system provides more air than your motor can use and is one of the best filtration systems available. NONE of the aftermarket systems filter as well as the factory system, in order for them to flow more air they have bigger holes in the filter media so they don't filter as well.
If you have money burning a hole in your pocket to mod your truck, there are much better places to spend your money.
Turbo or Cat back(may cause warranty problems) exhaust
Full set of gauges
Coolant Filter
Fuel Line balance kit.
And if you really feel you must alter the factory air filtration system then look in the Tech Folder and do the Zoodad mod.
IMO don't waste your money on an aftermarket air filtration system.
The factory system provides more air than your motor can use and is one of the best filtration systems available. NONE of the aftermarket systems filter as well as the factory system, in order for them to flow more air they have bigger holes in the filter media so they don't filter as well.
If you have money burning a hole in your pocket to mod your truck, there are much better places to spend your money.
Turbo or Cat back(may cause warranty problems) exhaust
Full set of gauges
Coolant Filter
Fuel Line balance kit.
And if you really feel you must alter the factory air filtration system then look in the Tech Folder and do the Zoodad mod.
IMO don't waste your money on an aftermarket air filtration system.
BlackHat - do you feel the fuel line balance kit helps extend the life of the injectors? Also do you believe the Fluidampr is beneficial enough to make your list?
Last edited by bismic; Apr 6, 2007 at 08:43 AM.
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Originally Posted by bismic
BlackHat - do you feel the fuel line balance kit helps extend the life of the injectors? Also do you believe the Fluidampr is beneficial enough to make your list?
Fluid Damper is a great addition also for the long term on these or any motor as it does a much better job of reducing vibration in the rotating assembly than the stock rubber insert type usually installed by manufactures.
My list was by no means all encompassing, just trying to throw out a few options for MightyWhiteyF350.
I think all of these trucks should have a good set of gauges installed with an EGT gauge a priority and also a good coolant filtratiaon system. Both of these mods can be purchased for a total of $500 or less. After that the mod list can get very long depending on your specific needs, wants and pocket book.
Hope this helps
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Thanks BlackHat. I have heard comments like this before, so you have just confirmed my decision not to spend the money on the intake mod. I've already got the gauges (trans temp, boost, and EGT), and the exhaust, so I'll look into the coolent filter. Any reccomendations on where to find this?
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Thanks for your reply blackhat. You are spot-on about the mod list. Mine is two pages long so far. I'm just trying to figure out a way to prioritize - so far I am first wanting the mods that help reliability long term. I guess the next step should be gauges but before installing gauges, I want to have a talk w/ the local dealership so they won't assume from gauges that I have a tuner. Even though I have posted previously on some issues w/ the coolant filtration system, I have seen enough grit inside the filter after the first change that makes me very happy to have this filter (and definately recommend it).
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Originally Posted by MightyWhiteyF350
Thanks BlackHat. I have heard comments like this before, so you have just confirmed my decision not to spend the money on the intake mod. I've already got the gauges (trans temp, boost, and EGT), and the exhaust, so I'll look into the coolent filter. Any reccomendations on where to find this?
http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?...RODGROUP&ID=13
Hope this helps
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Originally Posted by bismic
Thanks for your reply blackhat. You are spot-on about the mod list. Mine is two pages long so far. I'm just trying to figure out a way to prioritize - so far I am first wanting the mods that help reliability long term. I guess the next step should be gauges but before installing gauges, I want to have a talk w/ the local dealership so they won't assume from gauges that I have a tuner. Even though I have posted previously on some issues w/ the coolant filtration system, I have seen enough grit inside the filter after the first change that makes me very happy to have this filter (and definately recommend it).
