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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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The new 2.3 love to rev even higher if you shift below 3000 they lug to much. Mine is dog below 2200 from there to 5 grand they really wind and have good power.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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That sounds about right. 3500 is were i've seen the auto 4bangers i drive shift. my engine is a good grunter, so i can shift round 2000-2500 without problems. the dodge red lines at 3200 so that shifts at 1200 rpm. but that's a deisel.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Every time I drove a diesel I felt just flat out wrong shifting it so low...but it never lugged once, just one of the things to get used to when going to a diesel.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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I usually shift the 3.0L by sound. Turns out to be around 3500 rpm each time. If Im going to go WOT I usually will watch the tach especially in first gear. Even for a little truck with not a lot of hp a 1st gear start ratio of like 12.84 it revs fast
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wtroger
The new 2.3 love to rev even higher if you shift below 3000 they lug to much. Mine is dog below 2200 from there to 5 grand they really wind and have good power.
This poses a question about the power issue. Mine doesn't seem to have a lot of power, which is understandable when you figure in the fact that she has 160k+ miles, but if I let her rev up a little more, say shift b/t 3500 and 4000, think it would give her a little more gusto?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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Yes it would. Remember that you have a four banger in a pickup truck. The power to weight ratio isn't anything to write home about. By revving it to 3-4K...you put the engine closer to it's powerband and thus making it easier to move the truck and actually in some cases improving mileage. That's also the reason the 2.3L trucks typically come with lower (numerically higher) gears such as 4.10s, it keeps the revs up and the engine in it's happy place.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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Oh, ok then. Getting ready to leave the house so I'll try that. I had though that may be the case, but when she starts winding out and gets loud I get a little nervous....lol
 
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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In my older Rangers with stick shifts I generaly shifted just befor the valves float just above the 6000 RPM range - lol
 
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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My '91 Ranger has the 2.3 l, 4 cyl. engine; 5 spd. manual and 3.45 gears. I most often shift by feel and sound. That means most of my shifts are made about 3000 RPM. I watched my tach today and that was close to my shift speeds - a little higher in the lower gears and lower, especially going into 5th (OD). 5th is usually my cruising gear on the highway, not the acceleration gear. If you want to play around with different engine speeds to see what those translate into RPMs, download this neat, free little program:
www.locost7.info/gearcalc.php

I find it useful to try different RPMs, gears, axle ratios and driving speeds to see what would make a better combination. According to this handy dandy program I can run at 115 MPH in 5th gear at 4000 RPM - remember I've got a 4 banger. Dream on!!!
 
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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There are lots of those calculators on the internet, including some on FTE.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/calculators/index.php

I love the speeds that the truck truly limits out at physically...if only...
 
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Well, today when I went out, I shifted b/t 35 and 4 and she drove like a totally different truck. Enough extra power that I could definitely tell the difference.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 10:54 PM
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Glad you noticed a good change. See if your mileage changes any. It does make quite a bit of difference, doesn't it?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:36 AM
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speaking of shifting, what about downshifting? Is it ok to just stick it in neutral and take your foot off the clutch then just use break to stop?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:01 AM
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Sure. It won't hurt anything, but I've noticed that my brakes last longer when using the clutch to decel. I pop into neutral in city traffic just cause I'm too lazy to shift that much.

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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While your breaks are lasting longer, what is that doing for your clutch? Think of it like this, what part would you rather wear out and replace moe often, your break pads or your clutch? Maybe it's just me guys, but I would consider only using the clutch to help slow down in emergencies or extreme breaking situations.
 
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