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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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Fuel injectors

The 5.4L 2v should be around 255hp at the flywheel and are equiped with 19lbs/hr injectors. Using other calculators http://www.iroczone.com/calcs/injectorsize.htm This one giving more options for fuel pressure, out injectors are under sized. Figuring 40psi, 80% duty,and 0.5 shows our injectors should flow 19.92lbs/hr. So with mods, we should be in 22lbs/hr injectors.
<center>Fuel Injector Sizing by Bowling and Grippo</center>

Input Parameters Are the Following:
  • <code> CID = 330</code>
  • <code> Volumetric Efficiency = 80%</code>
  • <code> Engine RPM = 6000</code>
  • <code> Number of cylinders = 8</code>
  • <code> # Injections per 2 Crank Revs = 1</code>
  • <code> Air/Fuel Ratio = 14.7</code>
  • <code> Test Injector Size (Lbs/hr) = 19</code>
Computation Results:
  • <code> The Engine uses 1.461e-03 pounds of air during 2 crankshaft revolutions at the given VE of 80%, per cylinder.</code>
  • <code> For the desired Air/Fuel Ratio of 14.7, the Injector Fire Time is 18.8 milliseconds.</code>
  • <code> For an engine operating at 6000 revolutions per minute, the Maximum Opportunity for Injection is 20.0 milliseconds (per 2 Crank Revolutions), which yields a 94.2% Duty Cycle.</code>
  • <code> *Warning* - This combination presents the danger of the fuel injector becoming operationally static (i.e. open all of the time).
    I was hoping to use 30lb/hrs, but to meet my goals I will need 32lbs/hr.

    Just thought yall might like this info too.
     
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    Old Mar 24, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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    You might try 5000rpm. 6000rpm is really pushing the limit of keeping the rods in the block with a 4.17" stroke!!!!
     
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    Old Mar 24, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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    your right and 19s are just under 80%.

    nput Parameters Are the Following:

    * CID = 330
    * Volumetric Efficiency = 80%
    * Engine RPM = 5000
    * Number of cylinders = 8
    * # Injections per 2 Crank Revs = 1
    * Air/Fuel Ratio = 14.7
    * Test Injector Size (Lbs/hr) = 19

    Computation Results:

    * The Engine uses 1.461e-03 pounds of air during 2 crankshaft revolutions at the given VE of 80%, per cylinder.
    * For the desired Air/Fuel Ratio of 14.7, the Injector Fire Time is 18.8 milliseconds.
    * For an engine operating at 5000 revolutions per minute, the Maximum Opportunity for Injection is 24.0 milliseconds (per 2 Crank Revolutions), which yields a 78.5% Duty Cycle.
     
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    Old Mar 24, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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    However, at 5200, 19s are at 81.6% duty.
     
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    Old Mar 25, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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    The input for RPM on that page is maximum torque RPM,not maximum engine RPM. The engine uses the most fuel and is at the highest VE at maximum torque. If you use 80% VE(which is probably pushing it for a 2V 5.4L),you're only at 56% duty cycle by that calculator at the 3600 rpm peak torque. But,you're not going to be at 14.7:1 air fuel at max torque or max VE. So,changing it to 13:1 air fuel(which is more accurate as air/fuel for that calculator)-you get a 64% duty cycle with 19 lb/hr injectors. All of this is just a guesstimate because there's nothing in that calculator about BSFC.
    My calculator says that 19's are good for 304 crank HP with a BSFC of .5 and 40 psi fuel pressure.
    JL
     
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