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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 04:31 AM
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Differance between 91Psd +95Psd?
Could anyone tell me if there are alot of changes to the 95Psd as I'm looking to buy a 91 for a parts truck. I have a 91 F150 that needs parts also.
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Big difference. No such thing as a 91 PSD. It's an IDI engine.
 
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yep Jim right. no such thing as a 91 PSD its a 7.3 indirect injection naturally aspirated non-electronitcally controlled
 
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So.... These blocks are completely different? I wasn't thinking of changing engines 'most of the stuff I need is alt., bumper , ect but I was hoping I'd have a spare drivetrain if I need 1. My 95 has 253,000 on it and its been heavily worked although it does run great.
 
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I"m hoping the bumper will just bolt up to my 95 as it has an 8000lb warn winch that I could really use.
 
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alternator won't work, rear bumper should be the same, front bumper may be different. axles will interchange. the only engine components that might interchange is the block itself, the heads are different. the tranny may bolt up but it's not likely to hold the power of the psd happily
 
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Yeah, not only that, the 91 is a AOD trans if I'm correct, we have the e4od, can someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Even if it is the e4od, it will argue back at you by leaving you stranded in a short time.

I know thier is a link that compares the engines somewhere
 
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the mother load. all you ever wanted to know:




<TABLE style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt" cellPadding=2 width="95%"><TBODY><TR><TH noWrap>7.3 DI TURBO</TH><TH noWrap>7.3L IDI TURBO</TH><TH noWrap>7.3L NA</TH></TR><TR><TH colSpan=4><HR>ENGINE SPECIFICATIONS</TH></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>TYPE</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Diesel, 4-Cycle Type,



Direct Injection


</TD><TD>Diesel, 4-Cycle Type,



Indirect Injection


</TD><TD>Diesel, 4-Cycle Type,



Indirect Injection


</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>CONFIGURATION</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>OHV V-8</TD><TD>OHV V-8</TD><TD>OHV V-8</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>DISPLACEMENT</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>444 cu. in.



(7.3 litres)


</TD><TD>444 cu. in.



(7.3 litres)


</TD><TD>444 cu. in.



(7.3 litres)


</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>BORE & STROKE</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>4.11 x 4.18 in.



(10.44 x 10.62 cm)


</TD><TD>4.11 x 4.18 in.



(10.44 x 10.62 cm)


</TD><TD>4.11 x 4.18 in.



(10.44 x 10.62 cm)


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(11 liters)</TD><TD>10 U.S. Qts. (9.5 liters)</TD><TD>10 U.S. Qts. (9.5 liters)</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>OIL PUMP</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Gearotor Pump</TD><TD>Gear Pump</TD><TD>Gear Pump</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>OIL COOLER</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>30 Fins per inch</TD><TD>30 Fins per inch</TD><TD>24 Fins per inch</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>LUBE OIL SYSTEM</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Enhanced for New Injection System</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>LUBE OIL FILTER</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Microglass - Extender</TD><TD>Cellulose</TD><TD>Cellulose</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>OIL FILTER MOTORCRAFT/PART NUMBER</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>FL-1995/F4TZ-6731-A</TD><TD>FL-784</TD><TD>FL-784</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>OIL DRAIN INTERVAL</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>3000 - 5000 miles with microglass filter</TD><TD>2500 - 5000 miles</TD><TD>2500 - 5000 miles</TD></TR><TR><TH></TH><TH noWrap>7.3 DI TURBO</TH><TH noWrap>7.3L IDI TURBO</TH><TH noWrap>7.3L NA</TH></TR><TR><TH colSpan=4><HR>HIGH PRESSURE LUBRICATION SYSTEM</TH></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>HIGH PRESSURE PUMP</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Gear Driven Swash Plate</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>PRESSURE CONTROL</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Pulse-Width Modulated Pressure Regulated Spill Valve (EEC-V)</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>OIL RAILS</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>High Pressure Rails in Cylinder Heads</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>OIL LINES</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>High Pressure from Pump to Rails</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>LUBRICATION OIL TEMPERATURE</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Used for Injection Control Strategy</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD></TR><TR><TH></TH><TH noWrap>7.3 DI TURBO</TH><TH noWrap>7.3L IDI TURBO</TH><TH noWrap>7.3L NA</TH></TR><TR><TH colSpan=4><HR>FUEL SYSTEM</TH></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>TYPE</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Electronically-controlled Direct Injection</TD><TD>Mechanical Indirect Injection</TD><TD>Mechanical Indirect Injection</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>SUPPLY SYSTEM</TH></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>Pump</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Mechanical Tandem: Diaphragm/Piston</TD><TD>Mechanical Single Diaphragm</TD><TD>Mechanical Single Diaphragm</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>Filter</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Replaceable Element (FD-4595A/F4TZ-9N184-B)</TD><TD>Conventional Spin-On</TD><TD>Conventional Spin-On</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>Return</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Flow Regulated</TD><TD>Pump and Injector Leak-Off</TD><TD>Pump and Injector Leak-Off</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>FUEL DELIVERY AND CONTROL</TH></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>System</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Unitized Injectors</TD><TD>Mechanical Pump, Lines and Injection Nozzles</TD><TD>Mechanical Pump, Lines and Injection Nozzles</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>Injector Actuation</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Hydraulic/Electrical</TD><TD>Mechanical Hydraulic</TD><TD>Mechanical Hydraulic</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>Injector Timing</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Electronic Controlled by EEC-V (not adjustable)</TD><TD>Mechanical</TD><TD>Mechanical</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>Fuel Control</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Electronic</TD><TD>Mechanical</TD><TD>Mechanical</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>Diagnosis</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>EEC Quick Test, Diagnosis with Super Star Tester II, Pressure Gauges</TD><TD>Pressure Gauges, Timing Meter</TD><TD>Pressure Gauges, Timing Meter</TD></TR><TR><TH></TH><TH noWrap>7.3 DI TURBO</TH><TH noWrap>7.3L IDI TURBO</TH><TH noWrap>7.3L NA</TH></TR><TR><TH colSpan=4><HR>ELECTRONIC ENGINE CONTROLS</TH></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>SYSTEM</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>EEC-V</TD><TD>None</TD><TD>None</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>INJECTION CONTROL</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Injector Driver Module</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD></TR><TR><TH></TH><TH noWrap>7.3 DI TURBO</TH><TH noWrap>7.3L IDI TURBO</TH><TH noWrap>7.3L NA</TH></TR><TR><TH colSpan=4><HR>CYLINDER HEAD</TH></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>COMBUSTION CHAMBER DESIGN</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Re-entrant Chamber in Piston</TD><TD>Pre-Combustion Chamber in Head</TD><TD>Pre-Combustion Chamber in Head</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>ROCKER ARM ASSEMBLY</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Plate-Type Valve Lever</TD><TD>Stamped Steel</TD><TD>Stamped Steel</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>EXHAUST VALVE MATERIAL</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Made of Hot Forged 21-2n Material</TD><TD>Made of Iconel for Temperature Resistance</TD><TD>Made of Chrome-Plate Steel</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>OIL RAILS</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>High Pressure Rails in Cylinder Heads</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>FUEL PASSAGES</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>In Cylinder Heads</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD></TR><TR><TH></TH><TH noWrap>7.3 DI TURBO</TH><TH noWrap>7.3L IDI TURBO</TH><TH noWrap>7.3L NA</TH></TR><TR><TH colSpan=4><HR>CYLINDER BLOCK</TH></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>CYLINDER BLOCK MATERIAL</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Cast Iron</TD><TD>Cast Iron</TD><TD>Cast Iron</TD><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>PISTON MATERIAL</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Aluminum-Alloy, Cast in Ni-Resist Insert</TD><TD>Anodized, Aluminum-Alloy, Cast in Ni-Resist Insert</TD><TD>Aluminum-Alloy, Cast in Ni-Resist Insert</TD></TR><TR><TH colSpan=4></TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Integral Combustion</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD><TD>Not Applicable</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>PISTON RINGS</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>#1 Full Keystone,



#2 Taper Faced,
#3 Two Piece Oil


</TD><TD>#1 Full Keystone,



#2 Full Keystone,
#3 Two Piece Oil


</TD><TD>#1 Rectangular,



#2 Taper Faced,
#3 Two Piece Oil


</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>CONNECTING ROD DESIGN</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Forged Steel



Larger Connecting Rod Bore for Wrist Pin
Larger Boring Surface


</TD><TD>Forged Steel



Larger Connecting Rod Bore for Wrist Pin


</TD><TD>Forged Steel



Smaller Bore for Smaller Wrist Pin


</TD></TR><TR><TH align=left colSpan=4>PISTON PIN BORE DIAMETER</TH></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>1.3086 in. (21.45 cm)</TD><TD>1.3086 in. (21.45 cm)</TD><TD>1.1104 in. (18.2 cm)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- Begin close content table --><!-- End close content table --><!-- Begin footer --><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" bgColor=#ffffff border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><CENTER>



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one thing that was also mentioned that the PSD block has piston oil coolers and the IDI did not.

I'll stop posting now
 
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Yeah, not only that, the 91 is a AOD trans if I'm correct, we have the e4od, can someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Even if it is the e4od, it will argue back at you by leaving you stranded in a short time.

I know thier is a link that compares the engines somewhere
IDK, I think it's a C6, Great trans but a 3 speed.

Kudos, Great info on the engines
 
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Thanks,I had no idea how differant they were so I guess this was a lost cause.I sure would like that winch and bumper though.
 
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Originally Posted by Cuda_jim
IDK, I think it's a C6, Great trans but a 3 speed.

Kudos, Great info on the engines
I think your right, I was just under a 93 f350 last night with a 5.8L and it had the notch pan on the trans so you could have very well been a c-6 but I was not paying atetention to it really.

We had an old late 80's maybe a 90 or 91 6.9 or 7.3 N/A service truck last year till we dumped it and that had a push button overdrive so...............I just remeber it was a slug down the highway and it had push button OD
 
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Thanks,I had no idea how differant they were so I guess this was a lost cause.I sure would like that winch and bumper though.
The 91 bumper will fit on a 95. The only difference back then was the diesels had decorative holes in the front of the bumper for the diesel. Heck for winch I'd make it fit if it a good deal.

There are many interchangable parts between a 91 & 95, except for engine. The trans and tranfer case (If it has one) axles ect might swap. Most body parts will swap too.
 
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The 91 bumper will fit on a 95. The only difference back then was the diesels had decorative holes in the front of the bumper for the diesel. Heck for winch I'd make it fit if it a good deal.
the front bumpers are not interchangable between 91 and 95. 91s had a more square front clip as compare to the rounded corners of the 95s. the bumpers are different
 
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Oop's my bad. Looking at the wrong book.
 
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