anyone running a rockford fosgate 3sixty signal processor??

i'm thinking of adding one to my excursion with the factory head unit and some kicker amps.i know this isent the best setup but i want to keep the rear controls and the steering wheel controls too.

amyone have any input??

what i already have to work with is 2- 4 channel kicker amps 1-100w per channel 1 -50 watt per channel thinking of using the 100 watt amp and parrelling the 4 rear speakers.it is 2 ohm stable.the front speakers are kappa 6.5 components and the rears are 6x8 pioneers.no subs as i need to use all the room i have in the x.or should i bridge the 50w amp and use it for the fronts?? if i put in both i have to find a new spot for my x box console that is why i'm thinking only the big kicker amp should be fine.
pete

 

I have seen them before. A friend has one. They are very nice but an aftermarket headunit that costs the same as the 3sixty will go WAY farther.

 

Caugh caugh - go read/learn something on your own.

The 3sixty is killer - so is the clean sweap from JL - or the LC6 from Audiocontrol - Any of them will be goo for what you are trying to achieve.

Like the factory deck - keep it.
Like the steering wheel controls - keep them.
Like lights over tokyo and spending money - take the random adivce you hear and buy a new deck.

 

thanks for the advice guys---i'm sticking with the stock deck,the 3sixty is on the way will be here tomorrow.never heard of the jbl unit but if the 3sixty dosent perform i'll look into it.

anyone have one with a stock deck???
pete

 

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Originally Posted by cln2po

Caugh caugh - go read/learn something on your own.

The 3sixty is killer - so is the clean sweap from JL - or the LC6 from Audiocontrol - Any of them will be goo for what you are trying to achieve.

Like the factory deck - keep it.

Like the steering wheel controls - keep them.

Like lights over tokyo and spending money - take the random adivce you hear and buy a new deck.

I know specifically what the 3sixty and the Clean Sweep is for. The store I work at sells both the 3sixty and the Clean sweep. Further more three of JL Audio's engineers / sales reps flew 5,000 miles last week from Florida solely to train us on how to install the clean sweep. So you "go read / learn something". I already did. When I graduated with the highest test score of anyone in my class from Installers Institute.... And when I passed the MECP exam with a 91.3%.... And when I set more then one SPL record (I still hold them).... and when I got hired as an installer a long time ago... and when I started running in SPL competition four years ago... and when I scored in the top 1% (83 score) in the nation and number one in my class, on the electronics section on the military ASVAB test that I took three to four years ago… The 3sixty will work fine for what he wants. I am just suggesting he looks into an aftermarket headunit. A comparable priced Eclipse atermarket headunit with a built in EQ would murder the 3sixty for sound quality.

 

Glad to see you are MECP certified!

Actually a nice 4ch LOC for $29.99 would work fine for what he wants.

I have a HUGE problem with comments like yours - especially since you work in the retail environment. He made it clear he wants to keep the factory stereoand its functionality. All of his other equipment is descent. And the first thing you puke out is buy a new CD player.

The industry has been in decline since 2000. Most blame it on lack of training/focus regarding integration - and the 'stuck' mentality of an aging enthusiast group in the industry (myself included). Products like the 3sixty, cleansweep etc. were engineered specifically to tackle integration issues - even on a simple system as in the excursion.

And you really need to get over this aftermarket decks 'sound better' issue - your customers will thank you. I agree that in some cases factory decks are crap - but a simple one in the excursion (ie no factory processing/filtering) sounds great when properly integrated.

Actually - this could be a good opportunity for you to experiment at the shop. Take the next descent factory radio and do an a/b comparison with an average ($200-249) headunit on your sound boards or test bench. If you set the gains on the amps properly I bet 4/5 guys in the shop couldnt tell which is which in a blind test. Might be something fun to try on a slow Sunday or something - and make sure the sales staff is there too - the stores integration sales, and you labor sales will benefit from it.

 

guys, please stop turning this into a pissing contest.

Matt

 

Actually Cln2pro I like your idea about comparing the headunits. I just bought 4 18's and 5 amps that do a combined 11,000 watts RMS of power. All in all the retail on my new system is right around $15k. I will leave the stock deck in for a day then change it out to a $200 one and then change out to my $600 one. I will compare and let you know what I find.

Icecold if you want to keep the stock headunit the Cleansweep or 3Sixty is your best bet. They will provide you with the absolute best sound possible from the sock headunit. Let us know how it sounds after its done.

 

thanks for the advice guys,

i recieved the 3 sixty today and will install this weekend.for the 175 i gave for it i dont think i can go wrong.you really dont get much of a stereo for 175 unless things have really changed in the last few years.

i realize the stock radio isent the best but i like the back seat controls and the steering wheel controls so i'm going to stick with it for now.

hopefully the 3sixty will liven things up a little if nothing else the 2 kicker amps should really help.

right now i've got to use what i have as i'm putting money into a spring swap and the gear vendors overdrive unit.

and after that i think i'll give satellite radio a try
pete

 

Well good luck. btw... they make interfaces to integrate the steering wheel controls with an aftermarket headunit.

 

Actually you could pull off some cool stuff there - leaving the factory deck and all. Back in the day we used any old headunit in the shop in our podiums - then we ran the signal into a small amp like the old Rockford RF2.3 and used the outputs of the amp as a line driver to all of the amps in the system. Tricky but very effective. Wayne wasnt to keen on it - but there was nothing in the rules against it! LOL So you could do the same - hook up a good LOC to the factory deck and grab a crummy old 35X2 amp off the unclaimed service shelf! Pre-amp voltage up the wazoo!

 

Why does Whyne care if you use a amp to drive your preamp inputs? From what I have seen pre amp voltage has little to no effect on SPL. My Audiobahn amps were rated for a 8 volt input and I had a 8 volt deck. Well I found absolutely no change in SPL (not even .1 dB.) going from max gain to 1/3rd gain. But then again some OEM headunits lack any type of low frequency reproduction (like some of Lincoln’s headunits) and you might need to boost it. So you ran in SPL comp back in the day hua? What was your highest score? At the moment my highest is with my Jeep. I did 156.4 dB. on the new Term-Lab with 4 15's in a wall and 4,800 RMS @ 47 Hz. I could pull about a 160 dB. on the Audio Control SPL meter.

 

It wasnt really to increase output of the amps - we ran 24 amps at one point - so we needed the signal LOL. And it just raised flags because its technically another amp. This was back in '98/'99.

Our shop put up some good numbers. Doug Iske is the guy that pretty much built/designed our team vehicles. He had the highest overall certified SPL in 99 @ 170.1 I believe that was with 6 15's and 24 amps. http://www.termpro.com/asp/competito...79&Season=1999
Then there was Mikes probe with 2 15's @ 165.3 http://www.termpro.com/asp/competito...22&Season=1999
The one I thought was most impressive was John Barnes - 2 10's doing mid 50's in the trunk of a stock grand prix!

 

I competed about four years ago and used a line driver for my signal to my 8 amps. I took some readings of the power the amps drew from the electrical system and it took less amps from the batteries to power the amplifiers and keep them at the same output with the input signal voltage higher. Basically when i sent more input voltage to the amplifiers it took less battery power for the amplifier to put out the same power. I looked into the three sixty and three sixty.2 and they seem like really nice units. I forget how many bands eq they have but i know the three sixty.2 has a pretty big band eq. Haven't kept up on alot of products but i would think the three sixty.2 has a little more tuning capabilities than the eclipse deck but i could be wrong. Also you can control them with a palm pilot or blue tooth labtop and they have feedback processing built in for better tuning. It's alot more than just a line output converter. Hope you like it and there is alot of info on it on the rockford fosgate website.

 

The only thing I dont like about the RF 360 is the Palm setup requirement. I havent had a Palm Pilot in over 5 years. The unit is sweet.