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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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Timing set

Whats the amount of power if any can you get out of useing a straight up timing set verse a stock retarded one.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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500HP at least, just like a FORD sticker for the windshield. Get both and it's off to the dragstrip...

Actually you will lose a few HP on the high end but gain a bit more torque down low. Just a few HP or ft-lb either way, 5-10 +/-.
 

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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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You made my heart jump for a second. LOL
Thats about that i figured so do you recomend running it like srtaight up or advanced.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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Run it straight up.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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Run it straight up. The only reason Ford put out the retarded timing set was for the emmision standards that came in. FYI it was a 4 degree retard.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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just a quick question,when would you want use the 4 degree advance or the 4 degree retarded key ways?is one setting better for a higher reving engine?
 
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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Ok i have a new 400 in my bronco from napa. Do you think the timing on this one is also retarded or come 0 degree?? Also can you use the same timing set if it is retarted and just advance it 4degrees. (this case if it is already new) Im wondering because im in a toss up doing a cam replacement and dont no if it would pay to get new timing set, being this on has 5,000miles on it...
 
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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4° retard is better for high RPM use.

The NAPA replacement would have an OEM type timing chain retarded 4°. You will need a new timing chain.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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I'm not sure if it was 72 or 73 when Ford started the 4 degree retardation on their cams for these motors so anything later than that with a stock timing set would have in.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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You need to decide what you want out of this powerplant. This engine is designed for torque more than horsepower. Tim Meyer has dyno results from the 400. It is interesting to note that the horsepower struggles to make 400 HP, but torque is in the range of 450 Ft Lbs. I'm a mudder and torque will bring you up and out of the mud.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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RE: retarded timing..
I have gotten two stories on this...I have read/heard they did not retard the timing on the trucks...just cars. Someone set me straight..thanks.
 
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