Negative camber
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Negative camber
Hey fellas I have a 6" Superlift on an 89 F-150. My truck has serious -camber issues. I know even a stock truck has -camber but mine is much worse. The lift has been on for two years now but only 3000 miles on it. I have had a custom front bumper the entire time which weighs in at 100lbs.
Has anybody done anything to help this. I don't expect it to be perfect by any means but some improvements would be nice. there are three options I can think of that might help but all involve guessing.
1. washers/spacers under the coils
2. move pivot points up the 4'' holes(prolly have too much positive camber then)
3. drill new holes in drop brackets between the 4 and 6'' holes.
Any help would be appreciated and I have tried searching this but too many guys lowering their trucks.
thanx a bunch
Has anybody done anything to help this. I don't expect it to be perfect by any means but some improvements would be nice. there are three options I can think of that might help but all involve guessing.
1. washers/spacers under the coils
2. move pivot points up the 4'' holes(prolly have too much positive camber then)
3. drill new holes in drop brackets between the 4 and 6'' holes.
Any help would be appreciated and I have tried searching this but too many guys lowering their trucks.
thanx a bunch
Last edited by 89F1fiddy; Mar 5, 2007 at 09:08 PM. Reason: spelling
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what makes you think you have terrible neg camber? i know a lot of people (including myself) who has run 6" lift on 80-96 1/2 tons with no problems. have you done something custom to the truck?
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I can visually see it when I look at my truck as well i can feel and see it riding on the inside of my super swampers.this wears out my tires and provides a rough ride and wears out my wheel bearings. As said i understand this is typical of ttb as i can see even it stock trucks but mine is much worse and way more noticable.My buddy has a 4'' and it is not nearly as bad. All of the proper bracketry was used from superlift.I have added a bumper and now this year a new winch as well, so it will probably sag even more making this problem worse.
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A good alignment shop should be able to fix your problem. First off, when is the last time you checked your ball joints? Are they in good working order, and not too worn? Second, if they are good, there is an offset bushing that can be used on the top joint that can be pivoted to help bring the camber back into alignment. Also, some lifts have an offset pivot bolt that can be adjusted to help reduce the amount of offset needed at the ball joints. As always, after you install ANY lift, you should get an alignment done. Not saying you didn't do this, but if the truck is wearing tires on the inside meaning they look like this: / \ , and you have already taken the truck to a shop that knows how to work on lifted trucks, you may want to take it back or find another shop.
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ooo ok, my bad for some reason i had in my head you were referring to caster.
yea take it to an alignment shop and they should be able to put the alignment shims in, but they are a lil pricey... like $80 a piece!
as kjett was asking... which was do your tires point? / \ or \ /
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yea take it to an alignment shop and they should be able to put the alignment shims in, but they are a lil pricey... like $80 a piece!
as kjett was asking... which was do your tires point? / \ or \ /
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Yeah they look like / \ that. I did take to an alignment shop after the lift was intstalled. Now it has just gotten worse. I have new balljoints on one side and the other side is still good for now.
I am still wondering if this is do to the added weight up front and sagging coils.I thought the bushings were to correct positive camber, like when you do a small lift but don't drop the pivot points?
I am still wondering if this is do to the added weight up front and sagging coils.I thought the bushings were to correct positive camber, like when you do a small lift but don't drop the pivot points?
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did you put the ttb arm pivot points in the bottom holes... the brackets that mount to the engine crossmemeber
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That was one of the reasons I went with the Skyjacker coils when I did my lift. They are a bit stiffer, but they hold up well. A buddy of mine had the superlift coils in his Bronco and the thing never sat right. The coils were much softer than mine and he could never keep it aligned. Granted, he did wheel it, and I knw that the TTB is a pain to keep aligned, even during normal driving conditions, but nothing too bad to cause it to come out of alignment. We are soon starting on his SAS to get rid of that problem!! and will have only the ball joints and us to blame if it doesn't stay in alignment!
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Heres an idea
take a measuement from a reference point on the front of truck to the ground, jack up the truck on the front and in the middle untill the camber looks good, then take the tape and re-measure from the same reference mark to see how much higher the truck is than the first measurement.
If its 2" more then dropping from the 6" hole to the 4" hole in the axle pivots will work, if its 1" then the camber bushings will work (they were $40 a piece when I checked in the summer).
take a measuement from a reference point on the front of truck to the ground, jack up the truck on the front and in the middle untill the camber looks good, then take the tape and re-measure from the same reference mark to see how much higher the truck is than the first measurement.
If its 2" more then dropping from the 6" hole to the 4" hole in the axle pivots will work, if its 1" then the camber bushings will work (they were $40 a piece when I checked in the summer).
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Took it to a buddy's shop and they raised the pivot bolts to the 4" holes and then used new camber bushings to bring the camber back from positive. He said my front end was back pretty close to spec which is good in my book for this type of axle.
This problem was do to sagging coils. Will be lookin for stiffer coils next time around.Thanks for your help and thoughts on this guys. My goal is to only use a shop for alignments on this truck and so far so good. It set me back $250.00CAN.
This problem was do to sagging coils. Will be lookin for stiffer coils next time around.Thanks for your help and thoughts on this guys. My goal is to only use a shop for alignments on this truck and so far so good. It set me back $250.00CAN.
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Originally Posted by WCMOTORSPORTS
$80.00 a shim, $100.00 labor and $89.95 for the alignment and this will fix all your problems.
Originally Posted by 89F1fiddy
Took it to a buddy's shop and they raised the pivot bolts to the 4" holes and then used new camber bushings to bring the camber back from positive. He said my front end was back pretty close to spec which is good in my book for this type of axle.
This problem was do to sagging coils. Will be lookin for stiffer coils next time around.Thanks for your help and thoughts on this guys. My goal is to only use a shop for alignments on this truck and so far so good. It set me back $250.00CAN.
This problem was do to sagging coils. Will be lookin for stiffer coils next time around.Thanks for your help and thoughts on this guys. My goal is to only use a shop for alignments on this truck and so far so good. It set me back $250.00CAN.
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