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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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Talking changing trans fluid

2006 250 5.4, how often should the tranny fluid b changed and what kind of hassle is it? should i have the dealer do it or is there a drain bolt in the converter? also what would the best fluid be to use? thanks

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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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I tow a 7,000# Travel Trailer in the summer with my '99 V10. I change my tranny oil every 30K like clockwork. I take it to a trusted tranny shop to have it changed as my dealership told me that they do not drop the pan or change the filter, they just run the fluid out and replace it. I like having the pan inspected for any debris before replacing the fluid. Pricewise it was about the same money, if memory serves it was about $70.
 
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Assuming you have the torqshift tranny, I'd be inclined to let the dealer do a complete flush and change the external filter. My manual says it should be done every 30k miles. Also, Mercon SP is the only spec fluid that can be used. Currently, Ford/Motorcraft is the only source for this spec fluid. Also, make sure the service department has a heated flush machine as it's required to get all the fluid exchanged.

Also, my 06 has no access to drain the torque converter. Hence why a flush is needed to get all the fluid.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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yes it has the torqshift, to bad there is no drain plug i hate paying someone to do smple things like this

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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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yes it has the torqshift, to bad there is no drain plug i hate paying someone to do smple things like this

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No drain plug anymore but there is a procedure for changing the fluid in the ford service manual, not the owners manual but the one helm sells. The dealer has some kind of a suction device that drains the converter. Put a full syhntetic in it that exceeds the Ford spec. I beleive mobil one will fit the bill. I havent yet changed the fluid on my torqshift cause it is new but I am for sure at 10K. When I did my aod tranny I had trouble but Ford customer service said no problem as long as the fluid met or exceeded ford specs and mobil one did.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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Mobil 1 does NOT have a fluid that is compatible with the TorqShift. It requires MERCON SP, and so far the dealer is the only place to find MERCON SP. Mobil 1 is NOT MERCON SP.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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Is Mercon SP a synthetic? Also, is the 4R100 tranny a torqshift? What other trannies are there for the Super Duty? Are the trannies different for V10 and Deisel and if so do they require different service and fluids?
 
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Mobil 1 does NOT have a fluid that is compatible with the TorqShift. It requires MERCON SP, and so far the dealer is the only place to find MERCON SP. Mobil 1 is NOT MERCON SP.
I was informed by Ford that I could use any fluid that met or exceeded Ford specs. Mobil one eceeds all oem specs as far as I know but do not know about mercon sp. Need to find out as mine will need converting to syn soon I'm sure. Anyone know for sure?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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Yes, I know for sure. Mobil 1 DOES NOT MEET OR EXCEED MERCON SP SPECS!

The 4R100 is not a TorqShift. The TorqShift started only in the diesels in 2003, and went into the gas engine trucks in 2005. After 2004 there was no more 4R100.
 
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I believe the torqshift is designated a 5R110. I also believe Mercon SP is synthetic. It sure cost enough to be a synthetic.
 

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Yes, I know for sure. Mobil 1 DOES NOT MEET OR EXCEED MERCON SP SPECS!

The 4R100 is not a TorqShift. The TorqShift started only in the diesels in 2003, and went into the gas engine trucks in 2005. After 2004 there was no more 4R100.
Were can I find this information? I am going to contact both Ford and Mobil ! and find out what they say in regards to this issue and will get back to you by Friday, God willing
 
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Powerstroke_wannabe
I believe the torqshift is designated a 5R110. I also believe Mercon SP is synthetic. It sure cost enough to be a synthetic.
YES...the Motorcraft Mercon SP is Synthetic.


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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bfloyd4445
Were can I find this information? I am going to contact both Ford and Mobil ! and find out what they say in regards to this issue and will get back to you by Friday, God willing
Here is the info...from Mobil1 website.

Originally Posted by Mobil1website
Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF
Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid

Outperforms conventional ATF and meets General Motors' Dexron® III and Ford's Mercon® and Mercon® V requirements. Also recommended for Chrysler automatic transmissions.

For many GM, Ford and import vehicles. Approved for use in vehicles specifying:
Dexron III, Dexron IIIE, Dexron
Approved for H specification, the latest GM Dexron III performance level
Mercon, Mercon V
Recommended for Allison C-4 and Caterpillar TO-2 applications
Recommended for Chrysler automatic transmissions
It does not mention Mercon SP...so do NOT use this ATF fluid in your 5R110 tranny.

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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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I tow a 7,000# Travel Trailer in the summer with my '99 V10. I change my tranny oil every 30K like clockwork. I take it to a trusted tranny shop to have it changed as my dealership told me that they do not drop the pan or change the filter, they just run the fluid out and replace it. I like having the pan inspected for any debris before replacing the fluid. Pricewise it was about the same money, if memory serves it was about $70.
Is this true? They dont drop the pan and change the filter? I am scheduled to have this done soon. I have 77,000 and have never had a trans service, no issues, but I dont tow or haul, my truck is like a car to me.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cudajim
Is this true? They dont drop the pan and change the filter? I am scheduled to have this done soon. I have 77,000 and have never had a trans service, no issues, but I dont tow or haul, my truck is like a car to me.
It is correct that FORD does not drop the pan and change the tranny filter...as part of the scheduled maintenance. According to FORD...the tranny filter is lifetime for that tranny.

If you want FORD to drop the pan and change the filter, then that is a special request.


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