Yep, you put it in a nutshell. I went the same route for the same reasons. Hey check out the 600HP 1100FPT 6.0 twin turbo super duty in Diesel power mag.
Ford F350 Superduty Twin Turbo - Diesel Power Magazine.
That said I'm sure the 08 will be a killer truck in the long term but during the transission period I lean towards no emissions control and sulfer diesel technology that is happy with any fuel.

 

Good article bfloyd4445. Here is a quote...

That pretty much sums it up...IMO.

With your argument, it would be like Microsoft Windows XP SP2 is just an update to Windows NT...and not an ALL NEW OS. I'm sure Mr. Bill would refute that. Or better yet, that Linux is just an update to Unix. Or Mac OS X is just Unix. I could go on... My point is...that enough changes have occurred...to call it "All New".

Again...appreciate the direction to the mag article. Some good reading for sure.

biz

 

Whew, what a strain on the eyes. We all love Super Dutys. I chose the 07, and yes the KR was more than 50, (didn't pay that much out the door), but still, with the history of "new" engines (or add-ons to the old, whichever) there will be hiccups. I got one of the first 05 Mustang GTs (3,127), you should have seen the list of TSBs on that. I still loved the car. I love both of my SDs, one day I will get the 6.4 maybe. There will be issues on the 6.4. Just buy what you want and enjoy it. I am thankful for all of the new buyers of the 6.4, make sure you go to your dealers and fix any problems, so when I buy mine, I will not have to. And yes, I too, can afford to buy what I want!

 

Well said Mustang!

I know I am a little ...but...the '08 6.4L PSD to my knowledge is NOT emissions compliant for 2010. So...expect an "Update" then...and maybe more problem issues. Hope not, but just thought I would mention.

biz

 

What emission changes are there in 2010? I thought that was just the deadline for off road diesels to switch to ULSD and meet stricter guidelines.

 

NOT totally sure?!?! I based that on the new 6.7L Cummins...brag that it is already 2010 compliant.

biz

 

chuckle, your right except in that the core of xp is nt and like Diesel power magazine said the 6.4 was simply a revised 6.0 in order to meet the new emission standards. I never said that the 6.4 wasn't good, all I said was that the 6.4 is not a new engine just simply a new engine system based upon, and using core components from the 6.0.
We all love the SD's and have faith that Ford will survive or we wouldn't be plunkin down hard cash on trucks that may not have a warranty tomorrow if Ford bellies up. 07, 08, 06, etc, they are all the best all around trucks on the road. Hey, and that isn't pride talking that is fact or Ford wouldn't be selling 50% of all the trucks sold. Right?

 

Someone may have mentioned it, but I missed it, but if you're going to do fifth wheel towing, I highly recommend going with a 350! It's a minimum of cost difference, but you get considerably more payload which will help with a loaded 5er. Also consider you may add extra fuel tank, tool box, etc to the bed, so the extra capacity will be welcome. Depending on options, the 250 can get close to the 350 as far as springs go, but the axle in the 350 is heavier duty. I'm kicking myself for not getting the 350, because when I got rid of my Exploder, I figured my diesel will do anything. then I found out about payload differences. If you have it, you can use it. Just my .02. Happy hunting!

 

YES...FORD trucks are the best! No issue there...

O'boy...I can only say that you might want to send Mr. Bill an email explaining that XP SP2 is just a covered NT OS. Bill.GatesATmicrosoftDOTcom Good luck explaining it to him.

I'm done with this. No how...and no way going to convince someone not willing to see the facts. Enjoy your "patched" 6.0L PSD. I have a head-ache now.

Humm...I need to add this to my sig!

biz

 

Hey, what does Bill know about Sd's anyway..........
Yeah, we have beaten this one to death but we have brought out information that will hopefully be of use to readers trying to make a choice. I tell you, if the 6.4 was a complete new system I would pay the extra bucks in a heart beat but as a revised 6.0< as per Britt and Diesel Power Mag> it just aint worth the extra bucks. That coupled with the fact there is going to be old diesel out there for some time that could damage the new 6.4. My feeling is stick to the latest 6.0 which by the way, has the new head bolts and gaskets, as of June 06 already I heard, most of the bugs worked out of it and wait a couple of years before picking up a new 6.4L. Hey, zero down and zero interest for five years is a sweet package savings several thousand dollars in interest, or, if you have cash leaves your cash in the bank gaining interest for five years.

 

2010 emissions? Isn't that when they have to start plumbing the exhaust directly into the cab and use your lungs as a filter?

 

LOL thats a good one.

I think it is a silly argument as to whether the 6.4 is just another 6.0 or not. The answer is yes it is a different motor. But is that the only reason to opt for an 07 or an 08? Financial situation is always a consideration. But apples to apples the 08 will always be worth more than the 07 unless you get a huge disparity in the mileage. $8,000 more? Maybe not but by the same token when I buy a new computer, I don't buy one that is only capable of doing what is on the market right now, I buy one built for the future.
I did opt for the 08, I like the new interior better, I like the motor, the truck as a whole not just the motor is much quieter, in 08 I will still be driving a current model year and if I did not like the "Super Duty" emblazoned all over the truck I would not be on this web site. I have a real hard time buying the same noise at highway speed statement. I have an 06 F250 with the V-10 and my 08 F450 is alot quieter on the road. The V10 makes almost no noise in idle, but as stated before the 08 as a whole is much quieter.
Everyone has different needs and resources. That does not make them stupid for getting a lesser equiped vehicle. There are a lot of features on this truck that I don't need, I wanted them and for the most part you will get value back on the options on the vehicle.
To each his own, there are merits to both sides. For my part if the finances are not the biggest reason for the choice than the 08 is the way to go.

 

I quite commenting about this because I realy feel the xx of the people here is very variant again that is why some pay cash some finance some do not care what they are driving and the rest lives in his own world.
but then again we are the world I just do not like when people talk and have no clue what they are talking about.