Notices
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

HFCM drain plug

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 04:26 PM
  #1  
blkfx405's Avatar
blkfx405
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
From: millington tn.
HFCM drain plug

I just put my new drain plug in today that does not require a allen wrench,all you have to do is unscrew it by hand to drain the water out.I had about 6 or 8 oz.of what looked like water but smelled like power serve drain out.It was clear like water but had the distinct oder of the supplament.Is this normal?
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:27 PM
  #2  
blkfx405's Avatar
blkfx405
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
From: millington tn.
I was also wondering wy my water in fuel warning did not function,how much water does the hfcm hold?
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:45 PM
  #3  
F250tuff's Avatar
F250tuff
Elder User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 890
Likes: 1
From: Douglas County, GA
Originally Posted by blkfx405
I was also wondering wy my water in fuel warning did not function,how much water does the hfcm hold?
Same here. I have gotten 3 to 4 cups of water out of mine, and that unit doesn't look like it could hold much more than that. My WIF light has never came on.
 
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 11:43 PM
  #4  
deadbear's Avatar
deadbear
New User
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Hi, where did you buy your replacement plug?

Thanks,

Bear
 
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 11:45 PM
  #5  
deadbear's Avatar
deadbear
New User
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
where did you buy your replacement plug? Thanks.
 
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 11:49 PM
  #6  
blackhat620's Avatar
blackhat620
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,196
Likes: 10
From: Arizona
deadbear.

Go to your local International Dealer

2589259C91 - replacement HFCM drain plug about $16.00

Your local Ford dealer may have it or can order it, usually costs more than at the International Dealer. Ford uses it standard in there medium duty LCF trucks.

Hope this helps
 
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 11:56 PM
  #7  
blackhat620's Avatar
blackhat620
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,196
Likes: 10
From: Arizona
Originally Posted by blkfx405
I was also wondering wy my water in fuel warning did not function,how much water does the hfcm hold?
Originally Posted by F250tuff
Same here. I have gotten 3 to 4 cups of water out of mine, and that unit doesn't look like it could hold much more than that. My WIF light has never came on.
I doubt very much that either one of you drained any water out of you HFCM, when you opened the drain plug. Drain your HFCM for about 25-30 seconds in to a container you will get 2-4 cups of diesel fuel (diesel fuel is basically clear with a slight yellowish tint). Then let your container stand for a minute and look at the fluid in it. Any sediment will be at the bottom and diesel fuel in the middle with any water at all floating on the surface. Unless you got some really bad fuel there will be little to no water drops floating on the top of the diesel fuel. The liquid you drain out of the HFCM should smell like diesel fuel and any additive you use since most if not all of what is coming out of the HFCM drain is fuel.

Hope this helps
 
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 09:38 AM
  #8  
Beachbumcook's Avatar
Beachbumcook
Got Diesel?
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,345
Likes: 21
Originally Posted by blackhat620
I doubt very much that either one of you drained any water out of you HFCM, when you opened the drain plug. Drain your HFCM for about 25-30 seconds in to a container you will get 2-4 cups of diesel fuel (diesel fuel is basically clear with a slight yellowish tint). Then let your container stand for a minute and look at the fluid in it. Any sediment will be at the bottom and diesel fuel in the middle with any water at all floating on the surface. Unless you got some really bad fuel there will be little to no water drops floating on the top of the diesel fuel. The liquid you drain out of the HFCM should smell like diesel fuel and any additive you use since most if not all of what is coming out of the HFCM drain is fuel.

Hope this helps
Yep... well stated and true.

In 92,000 miles, my WIF light has never come on. I only drain the HFCM before changing my fuel filters every 15,000 miles. I never even check or see if any water is in there... but hey, I just use my oil drain pan and hold it up over shoulders and let it drain away.

FYI - Always drain the HFCM before replacing the filter. Replacing the filter only does not drain the "lowest section" of the HFCM housing.

15 - 30 seconds it drains then stops (just do on level ground).

Open up rear cap, replace filter and your good to go.

Replace small filter on top of motor (may need a syringe to suck out fuel in housing) and your good to go. Make sure fresh oil is used to well lube the o-rings on both filters (not diesel fuel).

In my gallery are pictures of the revised HFCM drain plug (look under fuel filters and fuel stuff in my gallery).
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 09:43 AM
  #9  
F250tuff's Avatar
F250tuff
Elder User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 890
Likes: 1
From: Douglas County, GA
Originally Posted by blackhat620
I doubt very much that either one of you drained any water out of you HFCM, when you opened the drain plug. Drain your HFCM for about 25-30 seconds in to a container you will get 2-4 cups of diesel fuel (diesel fuel is basically clear with a slight yellowish tint). Then let your container stand for a minute and look at the fluid in it. Any sediment will be at the bottom and diesel fuel in the middle with any water at all floating on the surface. Unless you got some really bad fuel there will be little to no water drops floating on the top of the diesel fuel. The liquid you drain out of the HFCM should smell like diesel fuel and any additive you use since most if not all of what is coming out of the HFCM drain is fuel.

Hope this helps
You are correct. I had the same thing in mind when I changed my filters last week. I got about 2 cups of product out of the drain valve. I used a clean, clear bottle to catch it. I let it sit in the garage for 5 days, then checked it. There is no seperation. It is 100% diesel and PS. Thanks for the suggestion.

But, I always though petroleum floated on top of water, and that was why there are oil fires on top of the seas when there is a spill of some type. Is that not true? Shouldn't the water settle to the bottom of a container?
 
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 09:51 AM
  #10  
hott-rodd's Avatar
hott-rodd
Elder User
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 716
Likes: 0
From: memphis
I doubt you had water.
If you get water in the injectors you would know it in no time flat.
The 6.0 is very unforgiving with water.
 
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 10:15 AM
  #11  
bczolone's Avatar
bczolone
Elder User
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 911
Likes: 0
From: Mexifornia
yes the water will settle on the bottom its denser than diesel...you can use a few ounces of each in a bottle then you'll know what to look for when you see it...thats what I did when i thought I had water in my fuel...turns out I didn't there was a TSB on the HFCM.
 
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 01:11 PM
  #12  
blackhat620's Avatar
blackhat620
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,196
Likes: 10
From: Arizona
Originally Posted by F250tuff
But, I always though petroleum floated on top of water, and that was why there are oil fires on top of the seas when there is a spill of some type. Is that not true? Shouldn't the water settle to the bottom of a container?
You are correct, i was tired when i typed that last night, the fuel will float on top of the water. Good catch and glad to hear you didn't have water in your fuel.
 
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 03:50 PM
  #13  
deadbear's Avatar
deadbear
New User
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Thanks for the reply BlackHat. I was wondering if anyone had a link to the aftermarket plug that can be inserted by hand. It's oversized, so to speak, and does not require any tools.

Thanks,
Bear
 
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 04:00 PM
  #14  
blackhat620's Avatar
blackhat620
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 4,196
Likes: 10
From: Arizona
deadbear,

The part number i posted is for the oversized (so to speak) tighten by hand drain plug for the HFCM. It replaces the factory flush plug.

Here is a link to a picture of it
http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articl...icle-05-19.php

Hope this helps
 
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 07:25 PM
  #15  
blkfx405's Avatar
blkfx405
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
From: millington tn.
I love mine,it makes the draining process a lot easer.And more often,to make sure no water gets to the injecters
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:03 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE