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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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Pyrometer Gauge - Messed Up !!!!

When I parked at the shop today, I noticed that my Pyrometer gauge is almost pointing strait down. It should sit at about 200 degreee when I turn the key on but it barely moves and wont even go to 0 deg. What do u think ??
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Check your wiring first, especially your ground. Then I'd see if I could borrow a "known good" pyro and hook that up. I'm sure it's possible that the probe has gone bad, but that's highly unlikely.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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the light comes on and there is 12v going to it where the power goes into the fuse box. the volt meter wont go down to millivolts - so maybe I should send the gauge back ?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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Just to be super ****, check voltage at the gauge. I've only seen it once but the wire could be broken inside the insulation. RIDICULOUSLY rare, but still, it's a fairly easy thing to check. If you've got 12v at the gauge post, and you've confirmed your ground is good, then there's one more thing: are you 100% sure you didn't wire it backwards? Had to ask, but if you are, it sounds like your pyrometer is toast.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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what make of pyrometer is it?

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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autometer phantom - less than 1 year old
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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There were a lot of bad Autometer thermocouplers about 1-1 1/2 yrs ago. There was a grounding issue, but if yours was working fine before and then suddenly went goofy, I would suspect a wire problem.

Did you run a dedicated ground wire, or tap off of something?

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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if you have a volt meter that can read millivolts unplug the pyro from the gauge and contact the prongs in the plug from the pyro. You should see about 0.01mv at idle and if you step on the pedal it should rise steadily. If it does the Pyro is good and you have a gauge issue.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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I think the ground may be grounded w/ another thing or 2
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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But there is 12 volts there and the light comes on - When u turn the key on, the gauge will move a bit but wont make it even to the numbers ??
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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The reason I asked is that there have been a number of guys with Autometer Pyros that had the same issue as you that was corrected by a good secure dedicated ground.

The ground wire is the most underdone wiring everybody does. I always run separate grounds for accessories and use a wire brush, or at least a sharp object to scuff up the surface where it will be attatched so that there is a fresh non oxidized surface to contact the connector to.

I would check your ground by moving it around while engine is running and see what happens. I know that sounds like overkill nonsense, but most gauge problems stem from poor ground contact connections.

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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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You shouldn't have 12 volts coming from the probe, it creates it own voltage as a byproduct of heat and chemical reaction. The voltage range of most thermocouples autometer uses is 0.01mv-0.9mv.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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I have the exact same guage and mine did this. I went under removed the shrink wrap and removed the metal from touching where that connection is as best i could and put the shrink wrap back over and it works fine. Every once in awhile that metal will touch a little and cause the guage to jump up and down. But try that it fixed my guage.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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What shrink and metal are you referrring to ???
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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Where the probe wires connects to the wires that run to the guage.
 
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