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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NoMo
The '05+ V10 also uses a new panel filter...no more cone.
Cool...now I know!
I'm kind of torn on this subject myself. A regular paper filter is around $40 while a re-usable K&N is around $50. Never noticed a real performance or mileage change with a K&N, but I do like the one-time cost. Of course, if it allows more dirt to pass, then the shortened engine life more than offsets the filter savings. What to do, what to do!?!?
It's not a one time cost. You gotta get cleaner & recharger. You gotta buy the water used to clean it. I have one just for the financial reasons + it is one less thing to keep track of. I change my oil enough to not worry too much about the tiny little stuff that may pass through.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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OK, if you insist that I clean it, then it's not as cheap.

I saw a post somewhere recently where a guy performed flow & filtration tests on various air filters and the K&N didn't seem to do very well on the filtration side. I'll see if I can find that post and link to it.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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No need. Seen 'em all.

Eye'll* go back to paper at 40K. Just because...



*The letter "eye" doesn't work on my keyboard rght now. Odd...
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 12:11 AM
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Is there something in your "I"
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 01:03 AM
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Everytime I try to get a filter at Wally world their book shows the cone style for my 05. They only sell Fram so I figure I'm not missing much. Check this post I made back in June of 06. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...05-06-fyi.html
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NoMo
A regular paper filter is around $40 while a re-usable K&N is around $50.
You can get a filter for the 99 V10 at AAP for $15. That's not too bad every 20-30k miles.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Monsta
Sorry Ed. I'm still a cheap *******.

But I didn't know they didn't have air filters.

Tell you what...next time someone asks I'm gonna put a link to your site. I usually do and in fact had it in my original post but when I search for it it said it was the same for 99-06 5.4L & 6.8L. However, I know for a fact that the 04+ 5.4L 3V uses a panel filter and not the cone type. I saw the error at the site and wondered if the 3V V10 went the same direction. Not knowing I decided not to link it.

cool, alot of filters do fit other cars/trucks and the onling catalog will only list one or two vehicles but I always double check using vin number when order is placed.

thanks

Ed
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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While I don't condemn them (I've been using them for over a decade), I simply am looking for less dirt in my motors. I know all the sales pitch points so we don't need to go over them one at a time.

K&Ns give an extra couple of horsepower, sure, but I'm not 16 any more and don't care to turn my air filter lid upside down, any more than I want three horsepower with the dirt that rides in on them. I don't think my seat of the pants dyno can tell the difference, and the V10 doesn't much care.

In easy driving applications it's a minimal difference, but it's a difference nonetheless. I've retired them and gone to paper.

That's about it...No earth-shattering revelations.
Same here. Less dirt in the engine.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Incredible
You can get a filter for the 99 V10 at AAP for $15. That's not too bad every 20-30k miles.
True.
But the '05 filter isn't the same as the ones used in '99.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Right. $38 for the new one at AAP. They should come down in five or so years. Mine did.

That '06 filter looked pretty substantial. It oughta last 30k miles easy.

That's what we get for having big toys, I guess.
 
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