So how much clearence does a person really need?

 

i couldn't tell ya as i run a manual, but i believe a good inch or two, but i'm not sure, someone should go measure.

 

If you look at the picture of the pan, the 2nd bolt hole forward is 2". That may be a good starting point.

 

if the starter is pulled should have enough room to get the converter nuts.

tim i am getting ready to install my new motor i will do a test fit for you how much for the pan and pick up?

 

Might help some.

 

How bout splitting that difference in those 2 oil pans, so from what you said tim that owuld be about an 1"-1.5", I think that would be plenty, mark how much room do you have to get at the tq. convert bolts with the stock pan?

 

There is more than plenty with the stock pan. Not enough to get a wrachet in with the Milidon, less than a inch.

 

I looked at the stock pan I have, the rear sump makes its downward turn at about the 2nd bolt hole from the rear. I think that is about a total of 4". If I start it at the 1st bolt, I think that will be about 2".

I am feeling like this will be the answer, and it looks pretty easy.

Now my last question is header clearence.

Dave S. where are you??

I have been waiting for your feed back.

Dave and I have been talking about his pan, he is having pan to header clearence.

I am tring to figure out this issue.

 

Yeah that sound like it would be plenty, you could always make a little recess starting at the top and go to the bottom of the pan to, but that is probably more work than its worth though.

As far as header clearenc issues go, the only one i can see is with the pipes crossing over to passenger side to clear the transfer case and driveshaft and the hit the bottom/back of the pan.

I will post some pictures of the pan i'm going to be using once i finish with it (got it from monsterbaby from his old race cleveland and he blew a rod and banged it up so a little bit more cleaning up and its good to go) as it has a kickout in the front, then 2 baffles and such.

 

Maybe look in the bronco forum as well? I've seen trucks with dual exhaust w/o crossover but broco's with dual and cross. stock exhaust guys won't be using this pan i'm thinking.

btw...getting pushrods sent out tomorrow. will need wheezer head gaskets too.

 

Look's great! How much?

 

Ultimately we want to sell them for $299.
That would be pan, universal dip stick & oil pump pick-up.

We have a few design items to chage first.

I will make someone a deal on this first one.

PM if anyone is interested.

 

Hey Reverend Tim, I'm here. New drag car been driving me crazy!! Only driving on garage floor not on strip!

We have lots of talking here and everybody has different wants!

Mustang70 says about pipes crossing side to side,,have not seen them kind. Also, can you tell what your engine is going into an setup? I think maybe mudder an is that hood headers?

Torque convertor nuts,, I always get mine (with big pans) from starter hole, starter's coming anyway right? If any one cannot access nuts from starter, please advise!

I don't have custom headers, My truck is a 78 f150 4 wheeldrive auto shortbed. 400 engine that Rev Tim built! (I love that engine and the "holy torque") pardon the pun!
I had generic (blackjack, summit, or someother $99 header) I put new engine in and these headers (fit well with stock pan) were touching the bigger pan on drivers side deep sump. I tweaked (big hammer) tubes and got some air between pan an headers, put heat mat on side of pan and enjoyed the engine! Kept in mind that I'm still throwing heat in pan, stopped at summit and asked to look at different styles, went with the hedman 89218. Tubes were more front to back and beside each other. These fit better, still real close at deep sump of pan. No custom smashing on tubes either!

The driveshaft (front 1) is close to the oil pan and that is the problem I see. With the deep sump, it close the gap for header tubes.

Any thoughts on how close you may run tubes to pan? Anyone have the 4wd and running a big pan with headers? Not Fenderwell ones. How much room do you have with your headers? If you have headers an stock pan, run a straight edge straight down from side of pan and see how it closes the gap to your headers.

Tim, I'm sorry have not been in "church" Like I said, scrambling on new Maverick an trucking is busy. Called the guy on my old set of headers, he's worse then I am! Will jump his bones tonight as I have off. Ah heck, grab your phone, I'm calling you.

I hope this pan works out. Price is excellent an nobody will have a pan to work as good. You need a good pan to keep oil in'er! Tim is the man to work this all out. Thanks Tim again!

 

d, i was refering to the crossover pipe from the headers (think of the factory Y pipe) as on the factory exhaust y-pipe crossover is fairly close to the pan if i remember right.

As far as my setup, yes its a mud truck application, fenderwell headers, and i have a good 6" of hood clearence with everything stock in a 80 3/4ton, i'll snap a couple picture tomorrow if that would help.

 

No need for pic's. Thanks anyway.

What I am looking at here is what most guys would be running on the street.

Frame regular headers on a 4 wd with the 351m-400 engine. Aftermarket oil pan with 7 plus quarts of oil. Not much clearence between the oil pan and front driveshaft. hope to get some feedback on this as Tim is coming up with great oil pan for us and now is the time to put the drawing board to work!

Anyone have any input?? Need some help here guys! Thanks