No ads in this weekends newspapers for Ridgelines. Local Honda dealers have been offering 3 to 5 grand off sticker. One Ford dealer has 2007 F150 CC XLT's with a V8 for $21,995.00. That was the only Ford truck ad in the papers. Meanwhile there are the usual 4 or 5 full page color Toyota ads, and about the same from Chevrolet. The only 2007 Tundra ad with a price was for a reg cab V6 at $21,995.00, same price as the F150 CC.


I went to drive a Ridgeline last year, there's no room for the sasquatched sized driver. I didn't even attempt to sit in it.

 

What paper are you reading? Those prices are pretty low. Even during employees discounts it took some time for me to lower XL SuperCab 4x4 4.6L to $21,000.

 

To me the Ridgeline looks like it's made of plastic. I can't see how they compare a Ridgeline to a F-150, Ram, etc.
I will tell you what, if we could get that 2007 Ford you listed there for that price here in Canada, they would sell like hotcakes. That truck would probably sell for roughly 35 grand up here. That's with a 4.6 not a 5.4!

 

Ridgeline is not a working truck, so its can't be compared to F-Series, Silverado, Sierra and Ram.

But I would compare it to Explorer Sport Trac.

 

I agree, but it got truck of the year from someone last year, another mag gave a similar award to the Subaru Baja...what a joke.

 

Really? Baja truck of the year? Is that magazine still in the business?

 

I don't remember what mag it was, but I do remember the reaction at the Toyota/Silverado/Dodge/F150 forums...what a joke.

Now I remember...CR gave the Ridgeline an award the first year it came out.

I recall because CR always claims never to rate a new model and Ridgeline was recommended from the get go.

 

Ridgeline won because driving it doesn't feel like truck, its feels more like a car.

I don't know if that's good thing or not.

 

I wouldn't know, it's too small for me, but so is darn near everything else. Latest disappointment...(just for test driving)....Toyota FJ Cruiser. The only Toyota that CR doesn't like, btw.

 

Interesting..........I will be the first to admit that I thought the Toy would walk away with all comparos. Kudos to Nissan for its strong showings. I never even considered the Titan (even though I LOVE the exhaust note)


As far as brakes go; that 12 feet is, of course, important but what's more important is repeated stops or stops when loaded...........that's where a big rotor will shine due to its ability to shed heat.

That Tundra's rotors dwarf my pre-'05 Super Duty and are a tad BIGGER than the current SD's!!!!


It may be the way I drive (somewhat aggressive) but I've warped every Ford rotor I've ever owned,(except the current Mustang, see below) fried the Lexus rotors that I had in '02.

The only OEM rotors I haven't fragged in recent memory is the '06 Jetta's.

I put 14" Brembos on the Mustang GT.....so I never got a chance to warp those!!!


Should be standard equipment on EVERYTHING:

 

Yes Germans take braking very very very seriously. That was one of my favorite things about driving BMW's every day, brakes so strong your eyes strain to stay in your skull. I remember the crappy brakes on my Mom's SHO back in the day, I think we went through three sets of front rotors in about 75,000 miles. When we got rid of the car it needed yet another set, that and four ignition coils. Good ridance to that turd.

I know everyone thinks that the Car and Driver crew are a bunch of advertising *****s, but I have not seen a GM product other than the Corvette win a comparison test in their rag in quite a while. They hate (rightfully so in my opinion) most of the domestic produced cars, because they are the definition of bland and mediocre. There are noted exceptions to that, and things are getting better but most of the high volume cars coming out of Detroit are not anything I would buy right now.

 

Todays San Gabriel newspaper had a pic of the Ford Interceptor showcar. Anyone seen it? The paper praises it to the sky, noting the distinctive styling, and high beltline.

To me, it looks exactly like a stretched Chrysler 300 with a squared off front end featuring a Fusion grille.

I guess Ford has joined GM's way of thinking. If you can't beat 'em, copy 'em.

 

Well if copying them means that Ford will make a powerful RWD sedan that has seating for four, and can actually get out of it's own way, go around corners, and look interesting... then by all means they should copy their competition. At least it will be a huge improvement over the complete lack of any direction they seem to be showing with their passenger cars right now.

 

I raise your 14" solid rotors (which look about 7/8" thick)- to 14" cross drilled, 1 1/2" thick and thats just on my "pickup"...
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I am going to beg to differ there.
The pre-05 SD's had CRAP brakes, no question.
But having assisted in designing a set of brakes for an automotive application... it has a lot to do with the pads type, pressures applied, and ability to maintain heat.
American consumers see brake dust as a warrenty issue, and as such the pads you see
Bear in mind I come from a country that see's braking as of greater importance than the American consumer (I still can't get over the fact you still get drum brakes on a Focus ), my biggest dissapointment with every late model BMW I have driven centres around the brakes.
M3 - cooked them in a heated drive, and had "average feel".
M5 - better feel, but still (had issues with the transmission too - but the engine WOW)

If you want good standard brakes, aforementioned "pickup" sold here, and Porsche's, previous model Honda Integra Type R and Lotus's have been the ONLY vehicles I have walked away from going... damn. (and with Porsche's its more the brakes ability to comunicate to my left foot EXACTLY whats going on with the rotors and how close I am to loosing traction than thier actual stopping performance)

 

My Brembos are vented, (not solid) they are the OEM Shelby GT500 brakes. And while I would gladly take a set of cross drilled rotors, the EXTENSIVE research I've done show little to no value and in some reads they deter performance due to gas build up and longevity issues............but they sure look beeetchin'!!!


Please school me on your retaining heat comment......I've always been lead to believe heat is the enemy......causing fluid boiling, fade etc. Otherwise wouldn't solid rotors be in vogue??? Or for that matter, why use GIANT rotors if your goal is to maintain heat???