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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Engines Direct, in Phoenix

Anyone know anything about them? I was considering buying a remanned 400 from them for my bronco. with shipping, it'll be $1100 total, all said and done. I know remanned stuff is thrown together with pre-machined parts on a shelf, but would this be a good choice for a daily driver/mild-medium off-roader? If I build the 400 I have, or the 460 I have, it'll cost upwards of 2500-3000 for what I need done. granted, it'll be a better, higher CR, and probably more durable engine, but maybe the remanned will be suitable?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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The reman engines run like dogs because nothing is matched properly and they have low compression with the cheapest parts they can find thrown together by the cheapest help they can find.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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.....makes sense

wonder if I got one and double-checked all clearances. You're technically supposed to do that anyway, to be sure everything is in check before you go through the trouble of installing it.


I think the biggest problem I'm having is heads. Take my 460, for example. I can get everything I need done to the lower end, to include cleaning and magging everything, resizing rods with ARP bolts, bore/hone (with torque plates), deck, R/R cam bearings, align bore, grind crank, straighten (if needed) and balance the rotating assembly for under $1100. I already have new .030 coated hypereutectic pistons, but I'd still have to buy bearings. So add a hundred bucks to that, and I've got a complete 9:1 short block, machined by a reputable shop.

The heads, however, would cost over $900 to have done, by the time new guides were installed, hardened exhaust seats, springs, valve job (with new Manley stock valves), and milling.


That's crazy!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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That sounds high for a set of heads. Have you checked around?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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I haven't found another shop near here. And everyone swears by Mike's. I've heard of other backyard shops that do crappy business.

I found another remanned engine that is supposedly done with great care and detail:

What is the description of engine long blocks?
All long blocks come with cylinder head(s) attached and valve train installed. Valve covers, timing cover, intake manifold and oil pan are not included.

All long blocks have NEW valves, valve springs, valve keepers, push rods, rocker arms, fulcrums, lifters, camshaft, timing chain (belt), timing gears, valve guides (diamond honed), three angle seats, cam, rod and main bearings, pistons, piston rings, rod bushings (if applicable), gaskets and oil pump.

All cylinder blocks, cylinder heads, crankshafts and connecting rods are cleaned and shot peened and magnafluxed for cracks. All bolt holes are tapped.

Cylinder blocks are bored to each piston and diamond honed to 18RMS finish. All oil galleys are hand brushed with white cleaning brushes and cylinders are hand cleaned with cleaning solution and white towels.

Cylinder heads have each valve guide diamond honed, seats are three angle. After assembly, heads are vacuum checked for valve seating.

Crankshafts are ground and polished to 12RMS. Each oil galley is hand brushed with a white cleaning brush.

All connecting rods are honed.

ALL OUR REMANUFACTURED LONG BLOCKS MEET OR EXCEED ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT SPECIFICATIONS


What are the engine specifications?
Engines remanufactured by our remanufacturing line meet or exceed O.E.M. specifications.
- New Manley valves
- New Elgin valve springs and keepers
- New Badger pistons
- New Hastings molly rings
- New Dynagear timing gears and Durabond cam bearings
- New Dynagear timing gears and chain
- New Elgin lifters, push rods, rockers, ***** and nuts
- New Dynagear oil pump
- New FelPro gaskets
- Cylinder heads are pressure checked
- Diamond honed valve guides
- Three angle cut valve seats
- All head surfaces are broached
- Blocks are bored with deck plates, cylinder walls are diamond honed
- Crankshafts are ground and polished for .002 clearance
- Camshafts are ground to O.E.M. specifications, hardened and polished
- Connecting rods are sized to .002 clearance


SUMMARY OF OUR ENGINE LIMITED WARRANTY:
Passenger car and light truck long blocks are covered for 7 years or 70,000 miles. If failure of a long block should occur during the first twenty-four months and it is determined the failure is due to a defect in workmanship or parts installed by S & S, we (S & S Engine) will replace or repair the defective unit to the original buyer. During the balance of the warranty, S & S Engine will replace the long block at one-half of the current retail price.

The Standard limit labor reimbursement covers labor at $35.00 per hour up to a maximum of $400.00. A Premium warranty is offered for $110.00, which pays labor at $55.00 per hour up to a maximum of $700.00. An Extra Premium warranty is offered for $150.00, which pays labor at $65.00 per hour up to a maximum of $850.00.

All Premium and Extra Premium warranties must be purchased at the time of sale.

WARRANTY DISCLAIMERS
- Loss of time
- Loss of income or revenue
- Loss of transportation or vehicle rental
- Equipment rental
- Any towing charges
- Crankshaft thrust damage
- Diagnostic time, fluids, filters or shop supplies
- Oil starvation for any reason
- Piston scuffing
- Overheating, melting of heat tab
- Detonation, pre-ignition (melting of pistons)
- Head gasket with burnt fire ring
- Abnormal wear from contaminated oil (fuel or dirt)



From this page: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-...04735692QQrdZ1
 
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Always check on shipping costs. Engines/parts are heavy and return shipping if something is wrong is HUGE!
 
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