get this BS
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From: Milroy, PA
Originally Posted by ron's power stoke
mine DID have one..all the early 99's had them.. after that it was only very few that got them..
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Have you considered a side exit exhaust just in front of the passenger side rear wheel? That's what I wound up with kind of by necessity, and I like it a lot, especially not having to worry about the lack of clearance over the rear axel when towing and hitting potholes.
I have an early 99 that came with a cat, and when I had a banks down pipe, cat back exhaust, and a US Gear exhaust brake installed, there wasn't room for everything. I only had 5K at the time, but the cat was completely clogged with soot! The guy said he couldn't remove it due to laws and all, but after he took it off trying to fit everything under there, I grabbed it, threw it in the back of the truck, and persuaded him to finish the job without it.
Make sure you get all your warranty work done before your 5 years are up. I went in a few months after and was told that my time was up.
I have an early 99 that came with a cat, and when I had a banks down pipe, cat back exhaust, and a US Gear exhaust brake installed, there wasn't room for everything. I only had 5K at the time, but the cat was completely clogged with soot! The guy said he couldn't remove it due to laws and all, but after he took it off trying to fit everything under there, I grabbed it, threw it in the back of the truck, and persuaded him to finish the job without it.
Make sure you get all your warranty work done before your 5 years are up. I went in a few months after and was told that my time was up.
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Originally Posted by rebelchevy02
Our early 99 at work doesnt have one, it just never had one. Its definetly an early 99 too. It has a manufacturing date of xx/98, the differnet turbo, and etc on top of the engine, no AIH.. its definetly an early 99 that never had a cat
Supposedly, all early 99s have cats.
None of the 99.5-00 trucks have cats.
For 01+ auto-tranny trucks, none of them have cats.
Early 01s with sticks do not have cats, either.
For 02-03 trucks all manual-tranny trucks have cats.
Having a cat or not has nothing to do with Cali emissions... only the year of the truck and auto vs manual. Cali emissions only effects PCM programming, GPR vs GPCM, etc.
... Supposedly.
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From: Milroy, PA
Originally Posted by ryaneverk2
If it had no AIH, that just means it had the cold weather package delete option. No AIH, no EBPV either. Maybe the turbo was different because of not having an EBPV? Or is it actually the smaller turbo?
Supposedly, all early 99s have cats.
None of the 99.5-00 trucks have cats.
For 01+ auto-tranny trucks, none of them have cats.
Early 01s with sticks do not have cats, either.
For 02-03 trucks all manual-tranny trucks have cats.
Having a cat or not has nothing to do with Cali emissions... only the year of the truck and auto vs manual. Cali emissions only effects PCM programming, GPR vs GPCM, etc.
... Supposedly.
Supposedly, all early 99s have cats.
None of the 99.5-00 trucks have cats.
For 01+ auto-tranny trucks, none of them have cats.
Early 01s with sticks do not have cats, either.
For 02-03 trucks all manual-tranny trucks have cats.
Having a cat or not has nothing to do with Cali emissions... only the year of the truck and auto vs manual. Cali emissions only effects PCM programming, GPR vs GPCM, etc.
... Supposedly.
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Make sure you get all your warranty work done before your 5 years are up. I went in a few months after and was told that my time was up.
The way I understand this warranty thing, it that Ford has to prove to the customer that the modification you made actually caused the defect or problem that is being fixed
thanks for the info
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From: Prince George, BC
Under the hood on mine there is a sticker that says "Non Catilytic Vehicle" 02 7.3
hey twisted- where did you find this sticker, i am gonna go and look for it later, since mine is an 02 i should have it too
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Originally Posted by ryaneverk2
Having a cat or not has nothing to do with Cali emissions... only the year of the truck and auto vs manual. Cali emissions only effects PCM programming, GPR vs GPCM, etc.
... Supposedly.
... Supposedly.
I have a June 2002 7.3 with manual trans and no cat. I ordered it with the fed emissions.
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Originally Posted by ryaneverk2
Are you guys are confirming what I said or disputing it? 
Note that I said Ford didn't put them on most 7.3s, not did. 
Seems like you read my post as Ford did put them on most 7.3s. 
Note that I said Ford didn't put them on most 7.3s, not did. Seems like you read my post as Ford did put them on most 7.3s. 
I have yet to see one myself.
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Originally Posted by rebelchevy02
I forgot to mention, if it does have an AIH (the early 99) its not in the same location as my 02.
Originally Posted by John311t
My early 99 has no AIH and has the EBPV. I could not tell you if it had a cat or not, it had a 5" side pipe when i bought it.
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From: Milroy, PA
Originally Posted by ryaneverk2
Do you guys have a just one relay to the left of the fuel bowl? If so, is there a silver/aluminum finned unit above it (toward the rear of the truck)? Sort of where the second relay would be on most trucks that have a GPR and AIH relay?
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The finned part is a separate thing. It's aluminum colored and looks sort of like a heat sink. It's the glow plug controller module, which Cali emissions trucks have in place of a glow plug relay. My truck for example has one relay (AIH) then the GPCR in place of where the other relay is on most trucks (that have both relays).
I think you can sort of see it in this picture:
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2899...86590301ziVBMv
Look just above the plastic Powerstroke cover, and to the right of the oil fill tube, and below the cold side CAC pipe, and to the left of the wastegate solenoid. Does your truck have that (California emissions
... which is silly because we don't even have diesel emissions testing here).
I think you can sort of see it in this picture:
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2899...86590301ziVBMv
Look just above the plastic Powerstroke cover, and to the right of the oil fill tube, and below the cold side CAC pipe, and to the left of the wastegate solenoid. Does your truck have that (California emissions
... which is silly because we don't even have diesel emissions testing here).