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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by airharley
The hydralic steering ram I am refering to is on this link. Very similiar to what I found searching for the galaxy, t-bird, and early mustang. I wasn't able to find an actual power steering box so I am assuming that there wasn't one available until later.
There are two different P/S link systems used in big Fords/Mercs. 1953/60 with large control valve/ram, and the 1961/64 style with smaller diameter control valve/ram.

The 62-69 Fairlane-Torino-Montego/67-73 Mustang-Cougar/1975-80 Granada-Monarch use a similar system as the 61-64 big Ford/Mercs with the same diameter control valve/ram.

About 20 years ago I helped a guy develop P/S conversion kits for 1953/56 F100's using the Granada system.

The early (pre 1967) 6 cylinder Mustang-Falcon-Comet uses a much smaller control valve/ram. It's a weaker system than the V8's and will not handle the stress.

1965-66 Mustang V8's have the draglink/control valve as a unit.

And...1955/64 Studebaker sedans/coupes, Larks, Hawks and Avanti's also use the link system similar to the 1961/64 Fords-Mercs. The seal and repair kits interchange.
 

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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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The down side for early style Bendix systems is their constant high PSI Output extra hoses & control valve on the ram etc, or the "tip toe" effect at road speeds.
The integral box type systems solve all the downside stuff, but not on a single I Beam.
Mid 68 & later Ford went to a slipper style pump with integral steering box . It provides road feel all the way to what ever top end you may want to run at.

69-73 all have an integral box & slipper pump, but they won't work with a single I beam because the single I beam req's a drag link & its' pitman travels parallel to frame rail, while the integral box style travels across frame,& uses centerlink, not a drag link set up.

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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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I know the price is down right rediculous for their kit. That is why I chose not to use them unless I absolutely must. It wasn't until yesterday while searching for the power steering gearbox I thought you were looking for that I found a gearbox from the ford line which would bolt in with a bracket. Similiar to the toyota style box and compact enough to fit between the frame rails in the stock location. Hopefully by next week my shoulder surgery site wont require me to take a massive amount of vicadine and I can swing by the parts store to gather diamentions. They will otherwise help or kill the dream of power steering. Hopefully bring it to life with a prototype bracket in the following months. I don't like getting my hopes up about the thought of losing armstrong steering. Besides, I need something to do while I am off from work for the next 30 days.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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I remember looking at an F 5 or 600 slick that had power steering. The pump had a big tank on it with coils outside and was on an FE. Someting like this is what I am looking for. Trying ta stay Ford era. Any body know what I am talking about?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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I just found this thread, so you do not need to answer the questions I PM'ed you.

I have the pump, valve, and cylinder you are talking about in my pile. It will not do the whole job without some fabrication. So long as you stick with the solid axle, best solution is probably the separate ram & valve type of system driven by your stock steering gear-box.

I'll plug the beauty of a whole '65-up frame transplant (or at least the front frame clip). This gets you twin-I-beam independent suspension, easy adaptation of disks, and power steering. The extra frame-work will offset all the awkward adapting of any other approach. I've considered this job on my '61 F-100, but I have rebuilt just about everything but the king-pins and I bought the king-pin kit this week.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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I cant get into my PM's Archie and with this blizzerd I can.t stay on line with a foot of snow on the DSL. So I will get with ya later Boss. Thanks
 
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