Notices
All Things Towing Conventional, 5th Wheel, Toy Hauler, Flatbed, Gooseneck, Electrical/Brakes/etc.

Trailer title issue

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 5, 2007 | 07:39 PM
  #1  
Ferguson65's Avatar
Ferguson65
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,536
Likes: 200
From: southeast PA
Trailer title issue

Ok here's the deal. I finally found a trailer that fitted exactly what I wanted. It's a 16 foot 10k skidsteer trailer. Other than some minor issues (lights, etc), everything is pretty good. The only issue is the previous owner lost the title during a move. He asked the state for a duplicate, and they said they needed the VIN off the trailer. He went home to get it, and found that while you can still read most if the STICKER! The date of manufacture, gvwr, and VIN have all faded off. It's very clear that the sticker was NOT defaced in any way. He got the trailer from a close personal friend who bought it brand new around 95-97. The dealer it was bought from only keeps records for 3 years. How could I go about getting a title for this? To register it as homemade, I'd need a list of parts and prices I used to assemble it, which I don't have, because I didn't build it. I'm an honest guy who's just looking to get a decent trailer for a good price, which it is. Previous owner willing to provide bill of sale, location bought new and 1st owner's name. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.
 
Reply
Old Feb 5, 2007 | 08:13 PM
  #2  
the4by4freek's Avatar
the4by4freek
Posting Guru
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,264
Likes: 0
From: North Carolina
All that information should be on the previous registration. I have a homemade trailer that I built and all the info is on the reg.
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2007 | 04:23 PM
  #3  
rclarke's Avatar
rclarke
Posting Guru
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,525
Likes: 3
I would hope that your state has a provision for verifying the vin and when the vin is not readable and has not been tampered with a new vin can be assigned. In some states you can take the trailer to a highway patrol office for inspection and a reassigned vin number.
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2007 | 06:32 PM
  #4  
Ferguson65's Avatar
Ferguson65
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,536
Likes: 200
From: southeast PA
Originally Posted by rclarke
I would hope that your state has a provision for verifying the vin and when the vin is not readable and has not been tampered with a new vin can be assigned. In some states you can take the trailer to a highway patrol office for inspection and a reassigned vin number.
Thanks for that info, I tryed to stop at a notary tonight, but they were closed. I appreciate both of your responses, as most people seem to have their ten foot pole out on this one.
 
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2007 | 07:19 PM
  #5  
packlet's Avatar
packlet
Tuned
20 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 455
Likes: 3
From: Berkeley
take another look. the VIN may also be stamped into the steel somewhere on the tongue in additon to the faded sticker...
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 01:30 AM
  #6  
CougarXR02's Avatar
CougarXR02
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 586
Likes: 1
What state is this? Here in MA, the current owner/title holder can just go spend the $50 and get a new one issued. Actually a reissue may be cheaper.
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 03:07 PM
  #7  
firesoutmatt's Avatar
firesoutmatt
Posting Guru
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,353
Likes: 1
From: Nothern Indiana
Originally Posted by packlet
take another look. the VIN may also be stamped into the steel somewhere on the tongue in additon to the faded sticker...
Packlet is correct.

It has to be stamped into the frame somewhere. The sticker is a dealer thing and it has to be stamped (ingraved) into the frame .
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 05:45 PM
  #8  
Ferguson65's Avatar
Ferguson65
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,536
Likes: 200
From: southeast PA
Originally Posted by firesoutmatt
Packlet is correct.

It has to be stamped into the frame somewhere. The sticker is a dealer thing and it has to be stamped (ingraved) into the frame .
Looks like i'm going hunting for that this weekend. Hopefully, it will hit the nice warm 30 degrees they're calling for!
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Feb 8, 2007 | 01:51 PM
  #9  
06supercrew's Avatar
06supercrew
Senior User
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 471
Likes: 0
From: eastern nc
If it is a business manufactured trailer and you can find their name, try calling them for the location of the stamped vin #. It might save you a lot of time.
(just a thought)
Good luck
 
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2007 | 10:32 PM
  #10  
woodzracer's Avatar
woodzracer
Junior User
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Scott; as has been previosly stated, the vin should be stamped somewhere in the frame. Notory should be able to get last registered owner a new title. Here in PA going homemade as you said is a giant pain and is getting harder. I have a trailer with a vin plate and no title and no clue who the last registered owner is. Thought about registering it in MD as a homemade and then transfering to PA but that might be sticky to. Anyone ever try one of those lost title places. (pay $75.00 and get a new title) ?
 
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2007 | 04:00 PM
  #11  
bigredtruckmi's Avatar
bigredtruckmi
Lead Driver
Veteran: Navy
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,782
Likes: 221
From: Huntington Indiana
Club FTE Gold Member
Was it previously plated? If you have the lic plate they can backtrack it.
 
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2007 | 04:21 PM
  #12  
Ferguson65's Avatar
Ferguson65
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,536
Likes: 200
From: southeast PA
I have been told by trailer mfr's around here that they don't stamp the frame, just use the sticker (this was a company that is VERY highly regarded). I did contact previous owner to see if he still has an old reg. card laying around. The tag was on a PLASTIC braket and was removed (broken off), by a road obstacle before my time.
 
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2007 | 04:40 PM
  #13  
firesoutmatt's Avatar
firesoutmatt
Posting Guru
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,353
Likes: 1
From: Nothern Indiana
That is strange every trailer that I own (4) all have the frame stamped . My oldest one being a 1999. They are stamped on the tongue and my 5th wheel is on the pin box.

If I buy one from out of state we have to have a police check for VIN .
You might have to do that and they can say it has no VIN and go from there.
 
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2007 | 07:52 PM
  #14  
Ferguson65's Avatar
Ferguson65
Thread Starter
|
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,536
Likes: 200
From: southeast PA
I'm going to call the state tomorrow and see what they say.
 
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2007 | 08:07 PM
  #15  
Greywolf's Avatar
Greywolf
Fleet Owner
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 29,941
Likes: 46
From: Drummonds, TN USA
One year in California, I bought a home made trailer that was the hacked up remains of a '68 Dodge truck. I took it to the DMV, showed them the bill of sale from the guy from Texas I bought it from, and they themselves put a sticker on it.

-Just that - a STICKER.

For whatever it may be worth, if you have an engraver, or a set of letter and number dies it would be good to punch that number into the steel somewhere.

A FEW MONTHS AGO, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS CAR TRAILER WAS STOLEN, It turned up at a construction yard across town. The clown who sold it to them was busted and will not be doing construction labor around here anymore (YEAH TEAM!).

Either he was too goof-balled from dope to peal the sticker, or it was a stamped in VIN. When the new "owner" went to get it registered, the police report came up.

STAMP THAT STUFF INTO THE STEEL!

~It just might bring your trailer home some fine day.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:17 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE