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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Tenn01PSD350
So please refresh me on the tranny mods you have planned. I don't know what was mentioned earlier.
It is a John Woods set-up. 6.0 converter, his special VB, new ported & blueprinted front pump, think he said shift kit as well.

so it seems as though no one like the idea of going to mercon V? I have never heard of syn trans fluid having too much lubricity and make an older trans start slipping .

thanks for all the replys, can someone chime in here that has swapped to MerconV?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Royal Purple Max ATF here
 
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by amiller93
Royal Purple Max ATF here
Yeah, what he said.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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where do you get royal purple max?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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Oriellys is the only place around here to get it. A performance shop carries it but adds 2 bucks a qt.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Moniter the fluids all the time. I learned the hard way and had to buy a new tranny since I didn't change the fluid early enough. I now know what "burnt" fluid smells like...
 
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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Royal Purple user here. Great smooth shifts. My tranny has been rebuilt and upgraded.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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I need a scientist.......... can someone analyse these numbers and tell me which one is better. I have narrowed my decision to Royal Purple, Mobile 1, Schaeffers. I couldnt find any properties on the Schaeffers oil. here are resullts for the others

ROYAL PURPLE

Typical Properties*


Viscosity

cSt @ 40°C
32.4

cSt @ 100°C
7.4

SSU @ 100°F
272.8

SSU @ 210°F
63.2

@ -10°C (14°F)
568

@ -20°C (-4°F)
1200

@ -30°C (-22°F)
2868

@ -40°C (-40°F)
7934

Viscosity Index
197.5

Flash °F
450

Fire °F
490

Foam Test

Sequence I
0 ml / 0 ml

Sequence II (4 sec.)
10 ml / 0 ml

Density

A.P.I.
37.8

Specific Gravity @ 60°F
0.8358

Pounds / Gallon
6.96

Copper Corrosion

3 hrs. @ 210°F
1a

MOBIL1
Typical Properties

Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF

Viscosity, ASTM D 445
cSt @ 40º C 34
cSt @ 100º C 7.6
Brookfield Viscosity, ASTM D 5293
-cP @ -40º C 5190
Viscosity Index, ASTM D 2270 199
Pour Point, ºC, ASTM D 97 -54
Flash Point, ºC, ASTM D 92 236
Density @15º C kg/l, ASTM D 4052 0.86
Color Red


I am not sure if the numbers are the higher the better or lower the better! Also does anyone know what the properties are for Schaeffers.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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I hate to say this, but at 750,000 miles all I do is drain what fluid comes out then refill with Mercon and add a quart of Lucas. I haven't changed filter lately because the Quick Lube shop stripped about half of the treads out. I do tow!!
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:06 AM
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4844, yes the Syn is more slippery then the Mercon, and if you have 'more' power there is a good chance you can overpower the frictions and get them to slip, A moderately modded truck CAN and will slip the frictions, that is one reason you see so many of these trans go...because of abuse..

I would not use Mercon V as it is not compatitable with the friction clutch adhesive. So does this mean you cant-NO, does this mean the trans will blow up..NO. I wouldn't do it...Remember when Ford specified NOT to use Mercon V in the 4R100's? Read the owners manual if you dont believe me.

FWIW- I use amsoil/Schaefers Syn ATF in my 400HP 4R100 stock trans, take it to the strip as well, I still have the OEM clutches and OEM TC. No slippage here....YET.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:29 AM
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4844, yes the Syn is more slippery then the Mercon,
If the synthetic is more slippery than MERCON, it can't have a MERCON rating. Part of the MERCON rating is how slippery the fluid is. If it is too slippery, or not slippery enough it won't say MERCON on the bottle.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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so is royal purple and schaffers not synthertics? i could hace swore they were! also schaffers says it is compatible with Mercon, Mercon V and a number of other various ratings. also the RP is the same way.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by luvemhot
where do you get royal purple max?
Pep Boys sells Royal Purple but if you have a Car Quest nearby they are about $2 a quart cheaper!
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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If I remember correctly these 4R100's call for regular DEXRON/MERCON III not MERCON V. And yes, royal purple is synthetic.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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I run RP in my race trannies and plan on switching my PSD over to it pretty soon. I have found it lowered my race temps by 10 degrees and if it will do that with the abuse I put that tranny through just think what it will do to my 4R100.
Also RP can be purchased at NAPA, and RP is also a site sponser.
 
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