Flash/injector buzz question.....AGAIN!......sorry
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Flash/injector buzz question.....AGAIN!......sorry
I was recently reading a post I believe was from a tech that stated something along the lines of "when you get a new flash you also get all the old flashes too".
I can't find the post so I'm stating that from my memory,please correct me if this is not true.
My dealer will give me the injector buzz on my 07 and that's all I want,Not sure if I even really need(no starting problems).Maybe just for the long run of the injectors.
My question is,When he flashes it Will I get the past flashes too(06e17)or can I just get the buzz?
I can't find the post so I'm stating that from my memory,please correct me if this is not true.
My dealer will give me the injector buzz on my 07 and that's all I want,Not sure if I even really need(no starting problems).Maybe just for the long run of the injectors.
My question is,When he flashes it Will I get the past flashes too(06e17)or can I just get the buzz?
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Originally Posted by nico963
I was recently reading a post I believe was from a tech that stated something along the lines of "when you get a new flash you also get all the old flashes too".
I can't find the post so I'm stating that from my memory,please correct me if this is not true.
My dealer will give me the injector buzz on my 07 and that's all I want,Not sure if I even really need(no starting problems).Maybe just for the long run of the injectors.
My question is,When he flashes it Will I get the past flashes too(06e17)or can I just get the buzz?
I can't find the post so I'm stating that from my memory,please correct me if this is not true.
My dealer will give me the injector buzz on my 07 and that's all I want,Not sure if I even really need(no starting problems).Maybe just for the long run of the injectors.
My question is,When he flashes it Will I get the past flashes too(06e17)or can I just get the buzz?
Bottom line is... if you were reflashed it is the most up to date and you can not go backwards if unhappy with it. You have the latest program that Ford wants you to have for your year, make and model truck and motor.
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Originally Posted by Beachbumcook
New flashes supercede all older ones. Some build upon each other and others either disable or enable a new feature or programming strategy that Ford has now authorized.
Bottom line is... if you were reflashed it is the most up to date and you can not go backwards if unhappy with it. You have the latest program that Ford wants you to have for your year, make and model truck and motor.
Bottom line is... if you were reflashed it is the most up to date and you can not go backwards if unhappy with it. You have the latest program that Ford wants you to have for your year, make and model truck and motor.
are you going to get it?
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Originally Posted by raptor131
whats your take on the new flash?
are you going to get it?
are you going to get it?
1) Most recent flash for me was May 2006 - so I am pretty up to date... or was before this latest (injector buzzing flash).
2) I have never had a problem with cold starts (even with 15W-40 and now with 5W-40).
3) I think I will be "bothered" by the sound of the "buzzing"... so unless I have a problem... I have no need for this flash. If it is not broke... I am not going to get it fixed (flashed).
4) I think that with 5W-40 in my truck, sticking injectors, lazy injectors or cold oil in my injectors is not a problem.
5) I have 88,000 miles on my truck, so if I thought I needed it... I have just a few miles to go before my warrenty runs out... but for now... I have no need or desire for this new flash.
6) My mileage is good and all is rnning well... so why risk it... even though I trust and know my local dealer diesel tech.
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Originally Posted by armymark
Does failure to get the flash void your warranty?
If you have an issue or cold weather starting problem, then when the tech looks it up or checks your vehicle, he kows that one of the tools or "fixes" is, or may be, the new flash.
It is not a recall... just a fix if someone reports or complains about a certain problem... mainly cold weather starting.
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Originally Posted by nico963
I was recently reading a post I believe was from a tech that stated something along the lines of "when you get a new flash you also get all the old flashes too".
I can't find the post so I'm stating that from my memory,please correct me if this is not true.
My dealer will give me the injector buzz on my 07 and that's all I want,Not sure if I even really need(no starting problems).Maybe just for the long run of the injectors.
My question is,When he flashes it Will I get the past flashes too(06e17)or can I just get the buzz?
I can't find the post so I'm stating that from my memory,please correct me if this is not true.
My dealer will give me the injector buzz on my 07 and that's all I want,Not sure if I even really need(no starting problems).Maybe just for the long run of the injectors.
My question is,When he flashes it Will I get the past flashes too(06e17)or can I just get the buzz?
So no all the flashes do not build on each other, they are for specific issues that Ford is trying to fix.
Info from an earlier thread/post on this subject:
Ford has addressed the EBP Sensor a # of times. Especially with regard to the '03 / '04 Engine builds. Please note the following:
2003/04 Computer Programming Recall 06E17:
Truck built before 9-29-03 are being recalled to have the computer reprogrammed. The reason for this recall is to correct fuel injection timing during cold operation, EGR valve control, lack of power, check engine light illumination (P02263 or P0299), hard starting and rough running concerns related to Exhaust BackPressure sensor corrosion. Other symptoms not listed in this recall, but which could occur, would be excessive smoke, turbo control and surging at idle or cruise. The new update eliminates the EBP sensor input to the computer. The exhaust backpressure will now be inferred/calculated using other sensor signals. Trucks should be reprogrammed using versions 41.8 or 42.1 or higher.
After this reprogramming, the truck should be test driven, the computer checked for a codes and the codes cleared (even if none are present), the key cycled on for five seconds, then turned off twice, then the engine started and allowed to idle for 5 minutes at operating temperature to allow the computer to relearn the EGR valve closed position value. This is to prevent erronious codes or driveability sysmptoms related to the EGR valve an turbo performance. Broadcast Messages 5452, 5529.
2004/05 Emissions and EBP Sensor Recall 05E15:
Certain 2004 and 2005 trucks are being recalled for computer reprogramming and replacment of the Exhaust BackPressure sensor and, in some cases, the EBP sensor connector. Econolines built between 12-9-03 through 5-28-04, and SuperDuties and Excursions built between 12-1-03 through 5-31-04 will have the EBP sensor connector replaced. SuperDuties and Excursions built between 9-29-03 through 11-30-03, or between 6-1-04 through 1-18-05, and Econolines built from 6-1-04 through 3-3-05 do not have the connector replaced. All of the above trucks will be reprogrammed to the latest calibration level. Since many trucks ahave already had the EBP sensor replaced with the current level part, the sensor part number should be inspected. If the part number on the sensor is 1850353 over a number starting with "C1", the sensor does not need to be replaced. Any other numbers, or unreadable numbers, will be replaced.
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Originally Posted by Beachbumcook
3) I think I will be "bothered" by the sound of the "buzzing"... so unless I have a problem... I have no need for this flash. If it is not broke... I am not going to get it fixed (flashed).
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Originally Posted by exiled
I hear ya. Mine still bothers me, and i'm tired of tell everybody what that is thats buzzing under my hood. Several X brand owners what off shaking their head. But oh well maybe its what my truck needed.
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Hi Guys
Had truck in for oil leak today, also told them that sometime it runs a little rough with cold starts. Wanted them do the latest flash that cycles the injectors. They said that they tried to do the flash but the truck would not accept it. The truck is 2005. Has anyone heard this one before? I am a little concerned that they don’t know what there doing.
Thanks
Had truck in for oil leak today, also told them that sometime it runs a little rough with cold starts. Wanted them do the latest flash that cycles the injectors. They said that they tried to do the flash but the truck would not accept it. The truck is 2005. Has anyone heard this one before? I am a little concerned that they don’t know what there doing.
Thanks
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my dealer did an oasis on my 2006 and said mine never had the injector flash done? I also question if he knows what he is talking about. I dont hear a buzz when I shut it off and also a little confused as to wether I need to have it done..Any downfalls with having it done????
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